Dorchester Dragway

[LDELEE]

We are closed today and for the remainder of the year. We will reopen the first part of January. We wish everyone a Merry Christmas and thanks for the support this past year. We're Looking forward to seeing everyone again for our 2013 season! Happy Holidays

[NesbittRacing1]

do yall have a scheldule made for next year yet?

[LDELEE]

Have it all together in a few days. I do know for sure in March we will have a 2 day $10,000 shoot-out. Just trying to figure the best class to have or best 2 classes.

[NesbittRacing1]

Have it all together in a few days. I do know for sure in March we will have a 2 day $10,000 shoot-out. Just trying to figure the best class to have or best 2 classes.

cool man, i like the way that sounds already!!

[RobertHolton1]

Delee u know anything bout the points money from IHRA?

[LDELEE]

I will get with my cousin and chec. He usually handle the points.

[RobertHolton1]

Ok thanks

[Chillerman]

Shoot out race sounds like fun. It should draw a big crowd with that kind of purse.

[outlawts]

Let's do a street tire race

[Matts94Z28]

Let's do a street tire race

That could be fun. I know the upstate guys have a good time at theirs.

[Mr. Camaro]

I'd be down

[slowgreen99]

For 10k? Nah

[bones]

Have two shootouts and split the money!!

[Ballaholic29414]

Street tire race for 10k will bring cars but the spectator count would suffer, spectators pays the bills... Ford vs chevy and 28s vs 29s non W should bring cars and spectators...

[Matts94Z28]

I doubt anyone would do a street tire race for 10k. That was just an unrelated suggestion by Terry.

[outlawts]

I say you can run dr but nothing big

[mark king]

Street tire race for 10k will bring cars but the spectator count would suffer, spectators pays the bills... Ford vs chevy and 28s vs 29s non W should bring cars and spectators...

why not w ,s

[bones]

Terry i agree wid the drag radials.

[outlawts]

That would even things out

[RobertHolton1]

Anything goes on a ten.5 for 10 k

[LXtasy]

I think we need some more class racing in the area besides index and bracket racing

[slowgreen99]

29s an smaller, 10.5 non w's. SS. Hell I can't be competitive but that'd bring one hell of a field.

[Ballaholic29414]

why not w ,s
Alot of people bitch about cars running Ws.

[bababuschka]

What is ws?

[mark king]

What is ws?

29.5 10.5 w stif wall

[mark king]

well im not going out and by a set of tires for them to have one race . and they may not every have a gen. so i have two sets of tires a 30 10.5 and 29.5 10.5 w so if that dont work o well that leaves me out.

[Chillerman]

well im not going out and by a set of tires for them to have one race . and they may not every have a gen. so i have two sets of tires a 30 10.5 and 29.5 10.5 w so if that dont work o well that leaves me out.

It's only money right?

[Jimmyz18]

What is ws?

W= wide, you could have a 28x10.5 tire that would be 13" wide instead of the 10.5" it's supposed to be....never understood why they did that.

[bones]

Ive run 28. 10.5ws. And275dr. Pro. The dr are faster BUT the ws are more cons.

[bababuschka]

Sweet. Thanks for the reply's. I thought you would go faster with a soft sidewall tire to help it bite and catch better 60's?

[BAD BOB]

Stiffs give you a little more control of tire shake and better drivability down track. They are also normally better on heavier cars

[GRAY]

28 x 10.5 or 275 no w. Any power adder any suspension,no wheelie bars. That's a good race for Dorchester!

[mark king]

28 x 10.5 or 275 no w. Any power adder any suspension,no wheelie bars. That's a good race for Dorchester!

30x10.5 max no w or a 325 and any power adder

[BAD BOB]

yeah i think the 28" non w or 275 helps keep the playing field level.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

And no Turbo.

:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

[Matts94Z28]

And no Turbo.

:mrgreen:

[BAD BOB]

And no Turbo.

thats alright, i got a NOS car going together right now!

[bones]

Man i just want to race! 29. 30. 33 ws. Super swamper. Nos turbos chargers bring it all

[LXtasy]

Man i just want to race! 29. 30. 33 ws. Super swamper. Nos turbos chargers bring it all

Funny you mention that. Shawnboy runs all that.

[stevie]

thats alright, i got a NOS car going together right now!

Don't limit it to just pump gas!

[Chillerman]

Man i just want to race! 29. 30. 33 ws. Super swamper. Nos turbos chargers bring it all

That's what I'm talking about. Any size tire or power adder.

[Darryl Buckner]

That's what I'm talking about. Any size tire or power adder.

Thats right, the track will be the limiting factor not the tires..:bigthumb:

[slowgreen99]

Don't limit it to just pump gas!

Cant hang?

:bigthumb:

[bones]

As long as it got four wheels pull that bitch into the beams!!!!:)

[RobertHolton1]

I'm with bones anything goes on a ten 5 tire

[stevie]

Cant hang?

:bigthumb:

I don't use that as an excuse no to race :hysterical:

[BAD BOB]

I got a street car so it runs on pump gas

[mark king]

I'm with bones anything goes on a ten 5 tire

small blocks :bigthumb::bigthumb:

[bones]

Ldlee u know how to get the shit stirred. Lol

[mark king]

it dont matter we will be there ready to go with ower slow ass car...:poke:

[bones]

And yes as long as its a small block. On 10.5 is good with me. Ws or not its your money iam racing for. Thanks for puttin it on if thats the way you are goin to go

[oldskoolstang]

I got a street car so it runs on pump gas

E-85, right?

[BAD BOB]

E-85, right?

Yes

[GRAY]

Another idea on 1st class would anything goes the 2nd class could be driving to walmart and back then race

[oldskoolstang]

Everyone always has their own ideas for rules, which always complicates things. I say come up with as few rules as possible to get a big car turnout and a big field. Maybe have 2 classes, as has been mentioned, one for the all out race cars and one for the racecars that people try to call street cars.......I'd show up to watch if I were around.

[Matts94Z28]

Then everyone will enter the street car class claiming they have a street car. Ha!

[oldskoolstang]

Then everyone will enter the street car class claiming they have a street car. Ha!

That's nothing new. We get guys who don't even run an alternator and run only on race gas entering street car races all the time.......the problem is the tracks usually let them.....and they usually seem to get put out by a car that actually does drive on the street.....lol

[Blue Skunk]

I'm with bones anything goes on a ten 5 tire

X2. :bigthumb:

[slowgreen99]

I don't use that as an excuse no to race :hysterical:

Put pump gas in it then!

[stevie]

Didn't build mine to run on it so I could use it as an excuse not to race

[bwelch]

Didn't build mine to run on it so I could use it as an excuse not to race

Most people build the combo they can afford...

[RobertHolton1]

Anything goes on a ten 5 tire just like the races they were putting on in 07 and 08 they had over 20 cars in the last event big car count and get big names int the place, got to get spectators in the house..

[stevie]

Most people build the combo they can afford...

Learn something new everyday didn't realize it was that much price difference between a pop top piston and a flat top, thanks for helping me out

[slowgreen99]

Bryan, he's on here to be a spy for people and to bother Robert.

[stevie]

Bryan, he's on here to be a spy for people and to bother Robert.

Was this directed to me?

[slowgreen99]

yes sir! BTW, im just fucking with you, since you are picking on one person. I figured id play along.

[stevie]

How am I picking on 1 person, Idk but one Robert on this site and that's Robert Holton. But since u want attention u wanna do something? ;)

[slowgreen99]

Yeah I need attention! But sure, 4 hamburgers in the quickest time? GG

[LXtasy]

Yeah I need attention! But sure, 4 hamburgers in the quickest time? GG

With chasing a pint of shine between burgers.

[bwelch]

Learn something new everyday didn't realize it was that much price difference between a pop top piston and a flat top, thanks for helping me out

If you can only afford a stock block, why run high compression when it will only hold around a 300 hit? The high compression only puts more stress on the motor. Also premium is $3.50 a gallon and c116 is $13 a gallon....

[BAD BOB]

Oh boy!

[98nbmz]

275/ 28-10.5

[Harry]

I say 225/55/16 should even everybody out.

[LDELEE]

We will have 2 classes. Each paying $5k to win. Just need to decide what classes would get the most participation with the least amount of rules to enforce. Hopefully we will have it narrowed down by next week.

[oldskoolstang]

That's a good payout.....should draw a good crowd

[bones]

Ldelee u going to have a class for me to run in???

[WWhittle]

28's/275's no W, nitrous only, no wheelie bars, any suspension.
29's/315's no W, any power adder, no wheelie bars, any suspension.

Get in where you fit in.

[BAD BOB]

Why not keep both open to any power adder

[LDELEE]

Bad Bob, I was thinking the same thing. Do turbo cars have that much advantage over nitrous. Opening it up to any power adder increases car count. The main factor would be power management and who could make the trip, especially on radials. Wes, I do like those 2 classes though. Sounds good to me!

[WWhittle]

Why not keep both open to any power adder

You know exactly why!
Example- if you took your current combo and turned it into a nitrous combo- could you go as fast, as easy, and as reliable? Absolutely not.

Bad Bob, I was thinking the same thing. Do turbo cars have that much advantage over nitrous. Opening it up to any power adder increases car count. The main factor would be power management and who could make the trip, especially on radials. Wes, I do like those 2 classes though. Sounds good to me!

Yes, a forced induction car has a very clear advantage over nitrous cars. ESPECIALLY when track conditions are not tip top. ESPECIALLY when there are no other rules- weight, turbo/blower size, etc.

You will pull a bigger total car count by covering a larger ET range. The 28 nitrous only class gives a lot more people hope than an any power adder class.

[Jimmyz18]

[QUOTE=WWhittle;204556]You know exactly why!
Example- if you took your current combo and turned it into a nitrous combo- could you go as fast, as easy, and as reliable? Absolutely not.

I know there's a certain big block nitrous car that can run with the turbo cars and do very well.......so, should you designate small block only for the nitrous class?? I'll run either way, but it's nice to know that your car has a chance

[WWhittle]

[QUOTE=WWhittle;204556]You know exactly why!
Example- if you took your current combo and turned it into a nitrous combo- could you go as fast, as easy, and as reliable? Absolutely not.

I know there's a certain big block nitrous car that can run with the turbo cars and do very well.......so, should you designate small block only for the nitrous class?? I'll run either way, but it's nice to know that your car has a chance

No because if they draw the fast boosted cars on 29's there are very few nitrous cars that could run with them in an outlaw style race.

And if the fast BBNOS cars want to step back and run with 28's or 275's at Dorchester I say bring it on.

[BAD BOB]

So for one to have a possible slight advantage you should X him out? Think about how many I them are out there to be competitive. Are they really going to be a big deal just so you won't have as many cars? So my street car on 28s would have to run cars on 29s just bc of the power adder? That's just one more thing to complicate things.

To be simple do a 28 10.5 non w/ 275 smallblock only then do a 29" outlaw anything goes. That's easy rules to inforce

[bones]

Bad bob iam wid u u can race not like a 4.9 is going to be run.

[WWhittle]

So for one to have a possible slight advantage you should X him out? Think about how many I them are out there to be competitive. Are they really going to be a big deal just so you won't have as many cars? So my street car on 28s would have to run cars on 29s just bc of the power adder? That's just one more thing to complicate things.

To be simple do a 28 10.5 non w/ 275 smallblock only then do a 29" outlaw anything goes. That's easy rules to inforce

Chris Tuten has been 4.70's at Dorchester, on 28's, with a smallblock single turbo. Same combo you have. Just because you built a combo that won't run 4.70's doesn't mean you get special rules. If you want to run a boosted combo you should run with boosted combos. And the pump gas street car excuse doesn't fly with me. I know what E85 is capable of.

And just to be clear- I'm not saying any of tbis for my benefit- I'm saying it because its fair.

Bad bob iam wid u u can race not like a 4.9 is going to be run.

Have you bumped your head? No 4.90's?

[BAD BOB]

Chris Tuten has been 4.70's at Dorchester, on 28's, with a smallblock single turbo. Same combo you have. Just because you built a combo that won't run 4.70's doesn't mean you get special rules. If you want to run a boosted combo you should run with boosted combos. And the pump gas street car excuse doesn't fly with me. I know what E85 is capable of.

And just to be clear- I'm not saying any of tbis for my benefit- I'm saying it because its fair.



Have you bumped your head? No 4.90's?

My point is why leave anyone out based on power adder? This is a race that they are tryin to get as manny cars in as possible. You think that if I run that there will be people saying I won't have a chance bc he is turbo? Really? I think at Dorchester everyone has a chance whether the cars are equal or not. That's like saying you can't run more than one kit bc some have 2 and3 kits and have run this et! I don't think they are trying to make so many rules to where they will count a lot of people out. It don't seem to change much at the HOH when they run there 28" race. They allow anyone on 28s and you see plenty of NOS guys running with the FI guys.

[BAD BOB]

Oh and wtf does it matter what his car runs with whatever combo compared to mine? That's like compositing your Fulton LS motor to the guys running around here now. So people just have the extra time and money to get there stuff working better than others. Plus mine is a street car!

[bones]

What head iam thinkinking wid my foot!,

[WWhittle]

My point is why leave anyone out based on power adder? This is a race that they are tryin to get as manny cars in as possible. You think that if I run that there will be people saying I won't have a chance bc he is turbo? Really? I think at Dorchester everyone has a chance whether the cars are equal or not. That's like saying you can't run more than one kit bc some have 2 and3 kits and have run this et! I don't think they are trying to make so many rules to where they will count a lot of people out. It don't seem to change much at the HOH when they run there 28" race. They allow anyone on 28s and you see plenty of NOS guys running with the FI guys.

1. You wouldn't be left out because you could run the boosted class.
2. I don't think anyone is scared of you. But if they let your turbo in they have to let everyone else's too and those are the people that don't need to be racing the little people.

Oh and wtf does it matter what his car runs with whatever combo compared to mine? That's like compositing your Fulton LS motor to the guys running around here now. So people just have the extra time and money to get there stuff working better than others. Plus mine is a street car!

This is the dumbest post yet. Why does it matter? Because thats the way rules work. By your logic, each car gets their own set of rules based on their ET, and how much time and money they have? Come on man, dont play dumb.

You keep calling it a street car, maybe you should just drive it around in the street then. This is a discussion about a race at a racetrack.

[ShawnBoyMoody]

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[WWhittle]

If this was a regular Sunday night race I wouldn't think much of the rules. But if they are going to pay $5-$10k, the rules need to have in mind that there are going to be some heavy hitters show up.

[BAD BOB]

My theory is based on most class racing. How many of the heads up classes are nos only? Basically the only ones that local people put on and are scared to let the turbo guys in. X275 odr and most all others allow turbos. I am not wanting them to just allow me in. I don't give a fuck if they allow anyone in the world to come. I just want to race and don't see why I would have to run people on 29s just bc I have a turbo. I guess bc you are a nos guy you think it should all be about them. It seems that you are the only one on this board that doesn't want to allow turbos and you will probably be the one not there. They want to make it simple so why make it harder? Any smallblock on 28/275? Oh that's right bc it's unfair. But wouldn't it be unfair if there were tin can race cars running street cars? Bc I got a street car!

[BAD BOB]

If this was a regular Sunday night race I wouldn't think much of the rules. But if they are going to pay $5-$10k, the rules need to have in mind that there are going to be some heavy hitters show up.

Or should they just be bias towards Nos cars?

[WWhittle]

My theory is based on most class racing. How many of the heads up classes are nos only? None, because they have a shit ton of other rules to even the power adders. If they took all those rules away, which combos would have the advantage? Basically the only ones that local people put on and are scared to let the turbo guys in. Scared? No, just realistic. X275 odr and most all others allow turbos. And have a shit ton of rules to go with it. I am not wanting them to just allow me in. I don't give a fuck if they allow anyone in the world to come. I just want to race and don't see why I would have to run people on 29s just bc I have a turbo. Because your combo is capable of running very fast. Just because yours won't isn't anyone elses problem. I guess bc you are a nos guy you think it should all be about them. If this was about me and you I wouldn't have said shit because you couldn't outrun me if you were dropped off that high horse you are riding It seems that you are the only one on this board that doesn't want to allow turbos Where did I say to not allow turbos? and you will probably be the one not there. I have probably run more Dorchester races than you have but whether I am there or not has nothing to do with the rules. They want to make it simple so why make it harder? Any smallblock on 28/275? Because they obviously want to draw more cars than just smallblocks on 28's and 275's. Oh that's right bc it's unfair. But wouldn't it be unfair if there were tin can race cars running street cars? Bc I got a street car! Then go get some groceries.

I thought you were smarter than this, but apparantly not....

You have a knife and you want to come to a gunfight.

[slowgreen99]

Call each other. Neither is making sense IMO. Wes is making jokes and jabs and bob is trying to let huffers kill nawz. Make it nitrous and boost in 2 classes, let the tires be the limit at 28s

[slowgreen99]

And SS.

[WWhittle]

Call each other. Neither is making sense IMO. Wes is making jokes and jabs and bob is trying to let huffers kill nawz. Make it nitrous and boost in 2 classes, let the tires be the limit at 28s

Because Bob has a Streetcar!

[paul wall]

damn Robert all the Ruckus over your Lil street car, turbos, nitrous, who cares who has what power adder, if you can't get your nitrous car faster then that's your problem.

[slowgreen99]

In his defense, it's very street able, and is the fastest stock block and crank car I've seen, so no he's not on tutens level. But I agree that without weights, you can't run boost and nawz together.

[WWhittle]

damn Robert all the Ruckus over your Lil street car, turbos, nitrous, who cares who has what power adder, if you can't get your nitrous car faster then that's your problem.

You talkng to me? You want to put the money up to see how fast I can go?

[WWhittle]

In his defense, it's very street able, and is the fastest stock block and crank car I've seen, so no he's not on tutens level. But I agree that without weights, you can't run boost and nawz together.

I never said it's not impressive. But with no rules, nobody gives a shit what crank or block or fuel he runs. That's the part he doesn't get.

[paul wall]

You talkng to me? You want to put the money up to see how fast I can go?

then why you bitching about his car for?

[slowgreen99]

But you compared him to tuten! :/

[WWhittle]

then why you bitching about his car for?

I'm not bitching about his car. I'm saying his combo shouldn't be racing nitrous combos with no other rules.

[BAD BOB]

Ok I say let Wes make the rules. Seems he is the god of all racing so he knows best. On and I will bet I have probably the fastest stock ls crank car out there and it ain't even gutted out. IOU and I would hope that that 60k garage ornament would be faster than mine being you have had the motor built so many times.

All I'm saying is what is so hard about leaving it open to all power adders and like everyone has been saying and let the tire and track be the limiting factor. Otherwise just limit it to a single plate to make it fair to everyone in the 28 class!

[BAD BOB]

Because Bob has a Streetcar!

Ya damn right! A slow one at that!

[WWhittle]

But you compared him to tuten! :/

I said that they have the same combo. I really don't understand why that is so difficult for ya'll to comprehend.

The rules shouldn't be based on what BadBob can run. They should be based on what the combo is capable of.

[slowgreen99]

I'm saying they're no on the same level, aside from y'alls arguing, that's all.

[WWhittle]

Ok I say let Wes make the rules. Seems he is the god of all racing so he knows best. On and I will bet I have probably the fastest stock ls crank car out there and it ain't even gutted out. IOU and I would hope that that 60k garage ornament would be faster than mine being you have had the motor built so many times.

All I'm saying is what is so hard about leaving it open to all power adders and like everyone has been saying and let the tire and track be the limiting factor. Otherwise just limit it to a single plate to make it fair to everyone in the 28 class!

You can be a smartass if you like, no problem. What's your point about my car sitting in my garage and my motor changes? You jealous? You mad? What's your problem? Please tell me.

And let me tell you one more time- unless you are entering a race that has a rule about stock cranks I don't think that's relevant when discussing the rules!

And I think a plate only on the 28 class sounds like a great idea if there are enough cars out there with a smallblock and a plate!

[bones]

Why didvi lose all my rep power? Lol

[BAD BOB]

I said that they have the same combo. I really don't understand why that is so difficult for ya'll to comprehend.

The rules shouldn't be based on what BadBob can run. They should be based on what the combo is capable of.

So if Brandon and your had the same combo we should look at his car as being as fast as yours? No bc we don't have near the money and r&d as y'all got in your cars. Everyone knows Chris can do a lot with a little but there is no way we are in the same setup. I'm sure you know enough about the ls crank and that it can't take a ton of hp or high rpm at higher hp.

[WWhittle]

I'm saying they're no on the same level, aside from y'alls arguing, that's all.

That's my point.

If Tuten showed up to race with his 302 and single turbo, and Bob showed up to race with his LS and single turbo- do they get different rules because one is slow and one is fast? No, they don't. Not any any of the class races Bob wants to use as an example. So, my point is that the rules need to be based on the fast guys, not the slow guys.

[slowgreen99]

I'll run both if y'all. 4 cheeseburgers. Hal knows the deal.

[WWhittle]

So if Brandon and your had the same combo we should look at his car as being as fast as yours? No bc we don't have near the money and r&d as y'all got in your cars. Everyone knows Chris can do a lot with a little but there is no way we are in the same setup. I'm sure you know enough about the ls crank and that it can't take a ton of hp or high rpm at higher hp.

I agree with everything you are saying but you are missing the point-

WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER RULES TO EVEN IT OUT, THE RULES HAVE TO BE BASED ON THE COMBOS CAPABILITY!

No, Brandon shouldn't be as fast as me, but if the rules are that it's 28's, NOS, Smallblock then he has to race right next to me. If there were rules to even it up, then that would be great. But that's not the case for this race.

[slowgreen99]

That's my point.

If Tuten showed up to race with his 302 and single turbo, and Bob showed up to race with his LS and single turbo- do they get different rules because one is slow and one is fast? No, they don't. Not any any of the class races Bob wants to use as an example. So, my point is that the rules need to be based on the fast guys, not the slow guys.

I know, that's why I said aside from y'all's arguing.

[WWhittle]

I'll run both if y'all. 4 cheeseburgers. Hal knows the deal.

I couldn't eat 4 cheeseburgers to begin with!

[bones]

Can i ask why my rep power went in the red?

[BAD BOB]

All in all you will never make rules to make it fair for us local guys to y'all high dollar guys. I mean big ball factor could come and I'm sure the guys around here wouldn't have a chance. Or maybe they would bc sometimes the fastest don't always win. Any time I had to run in the fast ford race I don't think anyone bitched about Trent being in it with his big block on a few kits to our lower budget small blocks, bc we came to race win or lose and had a good time. You will never be able to make the rules fair enough to make it a close field at a small run track like this. But I guess Wes will try

[slowgreen99]

I win already. Hot damn.

[slowgreen99]

I'll saIL my rep if ya want some

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Can i ask why my rep power went in the red?

I negative repped you because reading what you post makes my head hurt.

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[bones]

I dont care to have any but dam this must be yelliw bullet. No repect

[BAD BOB]

I see the point that you don't want nos and turbo cars to run but even if szabo came to Dorchester there is not one doubt in my mind that a nos car could outrun him. One this is the purse will be based on car count and will allowing all to run make that many not come to make the car count different than if it was nos only? I doubt it.

[slowgreen99]

Try for the 2 classes, and obviously base the payout of 5k on 24 cars (or whatever they decide) and get started

[WWhittle]

All in all you will never make rules to make it fair for us local guys to y'all high dollar guys. I mean big ball factor could come and I'm sure the guys around here wouldn't have a chance. Or maybe they would bc sometimes the fastest don't always win. Any time I had to run in the fast ford race I don't think anyone bitched about Trent being in it with his big block on a few kits to our lower budget small blocks, bc we came to race win or lose and had a good time. You will never be able to make the rules fair enough to make it a close field at a small run track like this. But I guess Wes will try

That's the difference between a race that pays $1500 and a race with a $10,000 payout.

And you are right, if BBF showed up he would outrun me. But I would have no excuse, we have the same combo.

[WWhittle]

I see the point that you don't want nos and turbo cars to run but even if szabo came to Dorchester there is not one doubt in my mind that a nos car could outrun him. One this is the purse will be based on car count and will allowing all to run make that many not come to make the car count different than if it was nos only? I doubt it.

I didn't say make it NOS only. I said have two classes-

One for the little people- 28's or 275's nitrous only.

One for the big people- any combo, 29's or 315's.

That's about as simple as it gets. If a nitrous car like Mark King wants to race but doesn't want 28's, no problem- he has a place to race too.

The more I think about it, Badbob is probably the only car I can think of that would fall in no mans land and that's only because his cars ET isn't what others with the same combo can run.

[Jimmyz18]

another way to help get the car count up is split the money up to everyone entered. give everyone $50 and the rest can go to the winner.

[BAD BOB]

I didn't say make it NOS only. I said have two classes-

One for the little people- 28's or 275's nitrous only.

One for the big people- any combo, 29's or 315's.

That's about as simple as it gets. If a nitrous car like Mark King wants to race but doesn't want 28's, no problem- he has a place to race too.

The more I think about it, Badbob is probably the only car I can think of that would fall in no mans land and that's only because his cars ET isn't what others with the same combo can run.

So your classes allow for big blocks? That's fair for the small blocks to run the big blocks with no other rules?

[bones]

28 / 275. Any power adders

[WWhittle]

So your classes allow for big blocks? That's fair for the small blocks to run the big blocks with no other rules?

Lol, so now no big blocks either?

Yes, that's exactly what I am saying. Let the smallblock and bigblock nitrous cars duke it out on 28/275 and let everyone else duke it out on 29/315. Ya'll are the ones that keep saying let the tire be the limiting factor! If you have a nitrous car that doesn't want to run 28's then they can still race in the 29 tire class. Everyone can race with those rules and it will halfass split the field where everyone has a decent chance. Except you maybe.

You do realize that I have a smallblock, with a cast intake, one carb, one system on a 28" tire, correct? It doesn't get any more "disadvantaged" than that in a no rules race....

[WWhittle]

28 / 275. Any power adders

Ok, works for me.

but if they offer $10,000 pot I wouldn't bother showing up if you can't run in the 4's.

[bones]

How much of that 10000 are you puttin in free testing to run with the best

[WWhittle]

How much of that 10000 are you puttin in free testing to run with the best

I don't think they will put up $10,000 for a field of 5.50 cars.

[bones]

May not but maybe 5000

[WWhittle]

May not but maybe 5000

Ok, if you say so. I don't think they are looking for the local cars when they say they want to have a 2 day $10,000 shootout. Maybe I'm wrong. I would think they are trying to draw in some big dogs which in turn draws the crowd.

[bones]

Oh yeah shawn boy moody. I got some midol for you. FOR YOUR HEAD

[bones]

Well wes ask them if they dont care about the locals opinion

[Harry]

I negative repped you because reading what you post makes my head hurt.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/shawnboymoody/English.png

A lot of what has been typed took a lot of rereading to understand. :confused:

[WWhittle]

Well wes ask them if they dont care about the locals opinion

Who said anything about the locals opinion? Good lord dude, do you read or just start typing?

[GRAY]

The best 2 classes to have 28,stock suspension, nos only, no wheelies and for another class 29 any power adder,any suspension,no wheelies! They will have plenty of cars in the 2 classes. Spectators will show up for that race. That's what counts. That what the track needs!

[WWhittle]

The best 2 classes to have 28,stock suspension, nos only, no wheelies and for another class 29 any power adder,any suspension,no wheelies! They will have plenty of cars in the 2 classes. Spectators will show up for that race. That's what counts. That what the track needs!

Sounds like a great race to me. It's been done at many tracks the last year or two with success. No need to reivent the wheel. They don't like me though so they would argue with anything I suggested.

Good luck to Dorchester figuring it out!

[slowgreen99]

The best 2 classes to have 28,stock suspension, nos only, no wheelies and for another class 29 any power adder,any suspension,no wheelies! They will have plenty of cars in the 2 classes. Spectators will show up for that race. That's what counts. That what the track needs!

Doesnt sound bad at all. I cant win either way, but I want to have a good show to watch or help other fast people in.

[GRAY]

Maybe we another race stock block only $100 entry 100 percent pay back! Ss, any power adder, no wheelies, tags , insurance, drive to summerville and back.

[slowgreen99]

only thing I disagree on is wheelies....I like wheelies.

[slowgreen99]

Maybe we another race stock block only $100 entry 100 percent pay back! Ss, any power adder, no wheelies, tags , insurance, drive to summerville and back.

Again, thatd be hard to draw in racers IMO. Stock block classes, possibly split up like NDAcut does. It works out pretty good. (IE stock block 400s vs windsors, 302s vs 305s, ls vs ls, and mopars dont come lol)

[GRAY]

I was thinking of talking to him about putting race on

[WWhittle]

Maybe we another race stock block only $100 entry 100 percent pay back! Ss, any power adder, no wheelies, tags , insurance, drive to summerville and back.

If you want a street car race, make it a hard tire race, everything else goes, drive to summerville and back.

Or a 5 speed/ 6 speed race, that would be cool to watch.

[Chillerman]

Man, my head hurts after reading all of these post's. I'm in agreement with Wes trying to keep it simple. If my car is ready, I will get in where I fit in. And yes, the fastest car doesn't always win, we proved that at the last shootout.

[NesbittRacing1]

All bull shit aside it doesn't matter what kind of rules or what race is actually decided on there will always be someone to show up with a advantage over the rest of the field weather it be chassis or motor or what ever there is never a equal race no matter if it be 100 rules or 1 rule

[Qwik_Sn95]

My biggest thing is there will be 10 nitrous cars to every FI car. There will be no problem having a 28/275 nitrous class and then have a FI class on any tire. The nitrous class will have a lot more cars anyways so that will be a closer class. If there were 10 FI cars in the race I'm sure there will be a elite group out front. Carry on JMO

[NesbittRacing1]

Also what the purpose of a 2 day race? Are they expecting that many people to show that it would take two days or are the planning like one day to qual. And race the next or ??

[WWhittle]

Also what the purpose of a 2 day race? Are they expecting that many people to show that it would take two days or are the planning like one day to qual. And race the next or ??

It looks like they are making an effort to draw in alot of higher quality cars and a good crowd.

[LDELEE]

Wes u hit it on the head, in regards to the 2 day race.

[slowgreen99]

speaking of crowds, I pray they have real cops that arent scared to arrest retards.

[LXtasy]

I like the sound of the 5spd/6spd race. Those are always fun to watch. Since a 2 day event was talked about, how about a diesel truck class? Leafspring class?

[GRAY]

Delee don't forget about the 6.0 and 7.0 race

[BAD BOB]

You do realize that I have a smallblock, with a cast intake, one carb, one system on a 28" tire, correct? It doesn't get any more "disadvantaged" than that in a no rules race....

really? you do realize i have a stock block, stock crank, stock exh manifolds stock intake and throttle body correct? It doesn't get any more "disadvantaged" than that in a no rules race....

[mark king]

All bull shit aside it doesn't matter what kind of rules or what race is actually decided on there will always be someone to show up with a advantage over the rest of the field weather it be chassis or motor or what ever there is never a equal race no matter if it be 100 rules or 1 rule

you hit the nail on the head. :bigthumb: i know steev just went 4.19 s on drag radails . so if he show up we are all done for. so you dont thank he cant run a 4 . anything on a 28. please. my thing is i have 29.5 10.5 w for my car and i have 30 x10.5 for my car. all new. i am not going to get another set of 28 s just to run one race. thats nuts.

[1998ta__1991rs]

you hit the nail on the head. :bigthumb: i know steev just went 4.19 s on drag radails . so if he show up we are all done for. so you dont thank he cant run a 4 . anything on a 28. please. my thing is i have 29.5 10.5 w for my car and i have 30 x10.5 for my car. all new. i am not going to get another set of 28 s just to run one race. thats nuts.

steev sold the car

[adamcs]

If I can I'll run either way, I think 2 classes would be good an maybe even do the winner of nitrous vs the winner of boost just for shits and giggles. I won't be the fastest. By any means but id still come just to have a good time at a good race and for once it's local.

[mark king]

Delee don't forget about the 6.0 and 7.0 race

that s right 6.0 7.0 run what you have . :bigthumb::bigthumb:

[mark king]

steev sold the car

lol ok so if i am the one that got steev .s car ? and i found out about this race. you dont thank i would wont to make 5.000 or 10.000 . with what that cars runs.

[1998ta__1991rs]

lol ok so if i am the one that got steev .s car ? and i found out about this race. you dont thank i would wont to make 5.000 or 10.000 . with what that cars runs.

they would have to ship it back from the middle east

[mark king]

they would have to ship it back from the middle east

lol :bigthumb:

[WWhittle]

really? you do realize i have a stock block, stock crank, stock exh manifolds stock intake and throttle body correct? It doesn't get any more "disadvantaged" than that in a no rules race....

No what you have is a smallblock with a turbo. That's what you don't get! If you want to RACE maybe you should trade your STREETCAR for a RACECAR!

Find me a class with a set of rules that gives a shit about all the rest of that crap you are talking about and I will quit arguing with you.

[BAD BOB]

and im suppose to give a shit about what you say your car has?

so its equal for a small block to have to run a big block but not nitrous to turbo? ok

[LDELEE]

Gotcha, Gray on the 6.0 and 7.0 class. I know Jackson and Hill has a similar 28/29 race in March. The rules will be basically the same. We're just trying to draw in some big names and provide some good racing to the spectators. The quicker we can finalize the rules, the sooner we can start to promote the race.

[WWhittle]

and im suppose to give a shit about what you say your car has?

so its equal for a small block to have to run a big block but not nitrous to turbo? ok

Yeah smart guy. Everything I listed about my car is class specific or rules specific. You can read the rules for the classes that YOU listed earlier as examples and you will find everything I listed about my car as part of the reason for the rules. You WILL NOT find one damn thing you keep harping on.

So let me get this straight- you want:

SMALLBLOCKS ONLY- what you have
28/275 ONLY- what you have
ANY POWER ADDER- you just so happen to have the best power adder

Hmmmmmmmm, yeah.

[LXtasy]

Bob, what wes is getting at is if your small block , stock suspension, turbo car on 28s or 275's is allowed so will another small block, stock suspension turbo car on 28s or 275s. The rules are so vague that tuten can run in that class because he would fit the bill.

So with that being said, the whole point of what wes is getting at is that many (in general) nitrous cars will not want a turbo car in that field with the vague rules. You are not a threat in that class but others could be.

[GRAY]

King I got a car to run any class they make up

[BAD BOB]

Yeah smart guy. Everything I listed about my car is class specific or rules specific. You can read the rules for the classes that YOU listed earlier as examples and you will find everything I listed about my car as part of the reason for the rules. You WILL NOT find one damn thing you keep harping on.

So let me get this straight- you want:

SMALLBLOCKS ONLY- what you have
28/275 ONLY- what you have
ANY POWER ADDER- you just so happen to have the best power adder

Hmmmmmmmm, yeah.

and as they say you build what you want.:ty:

[WWhittle]

and as they say you build what you want.:ty:

Exactly. So go run what you built where you belong.

[WWhittle]

Mike Hills $10,000 race is the exact same rules I proposed. I just looked it up on grudgeracer but couldn't get the flyer to copy over here. Maybe I'm not crazy after all?

[BAD BOB]

Exactly. So go run what you built where you belong.

with street cars?

[WWhittle]

with street cars?

Sure thing. Go find a streetcar race.

[Chillerman]

Gotcha, Gray on the 6.0 and 7.0 class. I know Jackson and Hill has a similar 28/29 race in March. The rules will be basically the same. We're just trying to draw in some big names and provide some good racing to the spectators. The quicker we can finalize the rules, the sooner we can start to promote the race.

Thank you. Please get the rules finalized so we can plan for this event. I for one would like to see some big names show up. We will run in this race where we fit in.:bigthumb:

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Mike Hills $10,000 race is the exact same rules I proposed. I just looked it up on grudgeracer but couldn't get the flyer to copy over here. Maybe I'm not crazy after all?

You might have to open it with MS Paint since that what was probably used to make the flyer.:hysterical:

[GRAY]

Let tuten run in the 29 class any suspension any power adder they can handle it. 28 class should be big block or small block nos only , stock suspension, no wheelie bars
That way the car will be high! There are a lot of races that way!

[WWhittle]

Let tuten run in the 29 class any suspension any power adder they can handle it. 28 class should be big block or small block nos only , stock suspension, no wheelie bars
That way the car will be high! There are a lot of races that way!

Tuten doesn't have the smallblock with the single anymore so he would be running the top tier class either way.

[WWhittle]

You might have to open it with MS Paint since that what was probably used to make the flyer.:hysterical:

Lol maybe so.

[perm102]

Stock IRS class? :hysterical:

[LXtasy]

Do a boost vs no boost

[Yella]

Let tuten run in the 29 class any suspension any power adder they can handle it. 28 class should be big block or small block nos only , stock suspension, no wheelie bars
That way the car will be high! There are a lot of races that way!

I don't post on here much but gray said it I have a ss 28" tire big block car that most of u can outrun but it would be nice to be able to race

[Harry]

Do a boast vs no boast

Fixed

[RobertHolton1]

Anything goes on a ten 5 tire

[mark king]

King I got a car to run any class they make up

me too lol

[mark king]

wess is right. he is just trying to get them to keep it far for everyone.

[1998ta__1991rs]

id like to see a hard tire race at dorchester

[LDELEE]

Working on having one in 2013

[bwelch]

id like to see a hard tire race at dorchester

no awd allowed

[RobertHolton1]

Anything goes on a ten 5 tire hold One once a month for 5 months and pay 2 grand to the winner. That's ten grand pay out then hold a 6.0 7.0 race to fill in the gaps for cool down time for the ten five cars... And must do race on a Saturday to keep the tNt cars out the way!!! Do 2 grand to the winner and leave it up to the racers on how they want to split pot

[slowgreen99]

That won't give a lot of people a snowballs chance in hell to even be competetive

[blkscls1z]

Yea all those TnT guys getting in the way clogging up the track. :roll:

[Matts94Z28]

Yea all those TnT corvette guys getting in the way clogging up the track. :roll:

Lol.

Maybe they can have an LT1 shootout.

[2001hawk]

Lol.

Maybe they can have an LT1 shootout.

Would a purple unicorn come out of hiding if the did?:poke::joke:

[RobertHolton1]

That won't give a lot of people a snowballs chance in hell to even be competetive

I bet there will be 5 different winners in 5 races

[slowgreen99]

This is a 2 day event, not year long

[Matts94Z28]

Would a purple unicorn come out of hiding if the did?:poke::joke:

Hell, everyone else is being unreasonable. Its possible.

[Ballaholic29414]

I think in order for this race to work smoothly track clean ups cant take 1-2 hours. Cant blame it on the tnt cars, tnt cars keeps these tracks up and runnin...

[1998ta__1991rs]

Anything goes on a ten 5 tire hold One once a month for 5 months and pay 2 grand to the winner. That's ten grand pay out then hold a 6.0 7.0 race to fill in the gaps for cool down time for the ten five cars... And must do race on a Saturday to keep the tNt cars out the way!!! Do 2 grand to the winner and leave it up to the racers on how they want to split pot

this wouldnt bring the faster cars or the spectator count that they're looking for

[ShawnBoyMoody]

I think in order for this race to work smoothly track clean ups cant take 1-2 hours. Cant blame it on the tnt cars, tnt cars keeps these tracks up and runnin...

Thankya!:applaud:

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Yea all those TnT guys getting in the way clogging up the track. :roll:

Always getting out of there cars and shit, hootin and hollerin. Yellin "I bet you wont sit beside it!" and "LOCK IN"......Wait. Wut?

[blkscls1z]

Cant blame it on the tnt cars, tnt cars keeps these tracks up and runnin...

:ty:

Always getting out of there cars and shit, hootin and hollerin. Yellin "I bet you wont sit beside it!" and "LOCK IN"......Wait. Wut?

:laugh2:

[RobertHolton1]

this wouldnt bring the faster cars or the spectator count that they're looking for

yes not all at one time, but i think at least once a month they will have a pretty good turnout

[RobertHolton1]

:ty:



:laugh2:

Im not against the TnT cars, but when you are trying to run in these shootouts trying to get in the staging lanes and getting paired up is a pain in the ass, the guys that actually race and not watch will back me up on this im sure,

[Matts94Z28]

yes not all at one time, but i think at least once a month they will have a pretty good turnout

Nope.

[GRAY]

It is kinda hard to make threw staging when your class racing at dorchester!
Agree with Holton on this one. But I think the answer is to have more organized staging. Not do away with tnt

[Harry]

Always getting out of there cars and shit, hootin and hollerin. Yellin "I bet you wont sit beside it!" and "LOCK IN"......Wait. Wut?

Look at Shawn going all Gangsta and Stuff. :mrgreen:

[Matts94Z28]

double post

[Matts94Z28]

I will be damned if I pay to go to Dorchester on a Saturday to watch the same old cars make passes in a bracket or index race, nor will I keep track of 5 different races.

Now on the other hand, I sure as shit would pay $25 to go see a two day $10k race that draws in some real cars! I'd like to see Dorchester get this off the ground for a good weekend of racing.


Look at Shawn going all Gangsta and Stuff. :mrgreen:

You must have missed Shawn light the tires up and lay on the horn right behind a certain blue monte carlo. Haha.

[Darryl Buckner]

Ok, works for me.

but if they offer $10,000 pot I wouldn't bother showing up if you can't run in the 4's.

^^^Truth.:bigthumb:

[RobertHolton1]

Y'all can't read I never said do away with TNT I said do the race on Saturday for sure so there will be less TNT cars

[freddy231]

one thing is sure the more rules the smaller the car count. you can't please everybody but you can rule your race into a noshow. and who says the fastest car didn't win the last shootout. i made the trip every time and i was i front of that black stang on moto when it blew.

[blkscls1z]

. But I think the answer is to have more organized staging.

Ding Ding Ding!

The staging lanes are non existent, it's more like a staging area with a clusterfuck of cars. You don't need to be a " guy that actually races" to see the real problem.

[slowgreen99]

Freddy, he was on 6 cylinders, so no, the faster car doesn't always win.

[freddy231]

i was on motor so do you think you know how fast my car is. i know how fast it is and i ain't skeered to drive it

[slowgreen99]

Lol, ok chief. Coming from the guy that won't put 28s on his car. I'm sure you can go some .2s on motor. No biggie. I retract my initial comment.

[freddy231]

you buy what you want ill buy what i want. i have ran 28s but im not comfortable on them as narrow as my rearend is .like i said i pay for my car so i fix it the way i want you do what you want with yours .have a nice day

[slowgreen99]

Lol, I'm just scared. You said it. I was just stating a fact and you got mad I guess. Sweet dreams.

[GreebeanZ28]

Make everyone run on a 28 inch Pep Boy's Futura tire. Car count for days! LOL.

[1998ta__1991rs]

Make everyone run on a 28 inch Pep Boy's Futura tire. Car count for days! LOL.

and id be willing to bet there would be multiple cars in the 5's

[RobertHolton1]

I smell a race brewing between slow green and fast Freddy!!!

[RobertHolton1]

Ding Ding Ding!

The staging lanes are non existent, it's more like a staging area with a clusterfuck of cars. You don't need to be a " guy that actually races" to see the real problem.

I agree with you 100%

[slowgreen99]

I smell a race brewing between slow green and fast Freddy!!!

Lol, he's trickie status!

[RobertHolton1]

You shoot on 28s ss he run hp on whatever bh! Sounds good to me!!!

[slowgreen99]

Maybe so

[freddy231]

ill take the back tire and ride on motor and you shoot everything, or ill give you the back tire and both shoot. before you holla i ain't mad and a simple yes or no is all i want. we ain't got to argue about whos got what

[ShawnBoyMoody]

You still need a driver Brandon? I need a ride.

[slowgreen99]

Nope. And nope. You can outrun Nesbitt on motor, so how can I give you anything with you on motor?

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Nope you dont need a driver?

[slowgreen99]

No sir

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Man damn. You see my avatar? I got skillz.

[RobertHolton1]

I need a driver, tuner, engine builder, chassis man, tranny guy, and a car owner, all I have is my iPhone lol

[ShawnBoyMoody]

I need a driver, tuner, engine builder, chassis man, tranny guy, and a car owner, all I have is my iPhone lol

You going privateer?

[slowgreen99]

Lol

[freddy231]

just a gamble. i offered you declined thanks

[NesbittRacing1]

one thing is sure the more rules the smaller the car count. you can't please everybody but you can rule your race into a noshow. and who says the fastest car didn't win the last shootout. i made the trip every time and i was i front of that black stang on moto when it blew.

ok my motor was hurt and i was on 6 cylinders that last race and you didnt pass me till my car back fired. yeah u right u did win yea, but you wasnt the fastet there that night and neither was I! BUT we will meet again

[RobertHolton1]

You going privateer?

Come on now I'm from Moncks corner put it in words I understand

[RobertHolton1]

Fast Freddy backed down slow green 99 AHHH snap.... Up next fast Freddy vs NESBITT RACING

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Come on now I'm from Moncks corner put it in words I understand

You stepping out on your own? No Superman backing?

[Harry]

ok my motor was hurt and i was on 6 cylinders that last race and you didnt pass me till my car back fired. yeah u right u did win yea, but you wasnt the fastet there that night and neither was I! BUT we will meet again

Seems like you two recall two different races.

[RobertHolton1]

You stepping out on your own? No Superman backing?

O no, pops has my back no matter what but were crooks anyway so it don't matter

[freddy231]

never said was the king there is always a match for the top dog. i was the fast car that night. as far as meeting again not a problem. i been doing this longer than most of you been living. win or lose i will race so bring it have a nice day

[RobertHolton1]

I was using sarcasm

[NesbittRacing1]

Seems like you two recall two different races.

no i know which race i recall i was in the car and saw everything including the fire :bigthumb: or was u referring to freddy being the fastest?

[RobertHolton1]

Freddy it's night time

[NesbittRacing1]

never said was the king there is always a match for the top dog. i was the fast car that night. as far as meeting again not a problem. i been doing this longer than most of you been living. win or lose i will race so bring it have a nice day

u right there is always a match for the top dog but u basically said u was the fastest there that which u wasnt and neither was i the s-10 was the fastest that night. so like i said the fastest doesnt always win. there a differece between having the winning cards in your hand and being the fastest.

[freddy231]

yea i know it is but if we don't type ourselves to death it will be daylight . you know what happens when an old man gets to old to run? he puts buttons on his steering wheel and shooots it. ha ha thought you might like my old ass joke

[Harry]

no i know which race i recall i was in the car and saw everything including the fire :bigthumb: or was u referring to freddy being the fastest?

Freddy saying he was in front,Then you saying you were in front. Just some friendly :poke: .

[ShawnBoyMoody]

O no, pops has my back no matter what but were crooks anyway so it don't matter

Good for you. Admitting there is a problem is the first step to recovery.