View Full Version : So much for metal head gaskets!
LilRedEclipse
04-14-2011, 10:04 PM
I don't think this really needs explained, Pics say it all.
This is what happened from this pass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYaSUsadAA4
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chrisheltra
04-14-2011, 10:08 PM
That looks expensive.
ForceFed4g63
04-14-2011, 10:10 PM
How's the internals? And what HG are you going with now?
LilRedEclipse
04-14-2011, 10:14 PM
everything looks fine except for the actual head. I have a felpro mls here for my good head that is getting machined.
I might pick up another mitsu mls and Oring a head for this next race coming up.
DolSVT00
04-15-2011, 12:06 AM
Dude, that car rides when it gets moving but damn all that import shit falls apart when you actually get it making good power.
I give you props for sticking with it and replacing something with the drive train almost every other track outing but damn I would have gotten rid of that shit long ago, I know all that broke stuff has cost you a small fortune.
ForceFed4g63
04-15-2011, 08:36 AM
Dude, that car rides when it gets moving but damn all that import shit falls apart when you actually get it making good power.
It's all about finding the right balance and setup, no different than any other car, domestic or import. Chris is getting close.
DolSVT00
04-15-2011, 09:50 AM
It's all about finding the right balance and setup, no different than any other car, domestic or import. Chris is getting close.
Not really, for us most of the stock stuff is almost literally the best parts you could buy. Our stock transmissions, axles, rear ends, cranks, driveshafts, blocks, heads and even headgaskets have held up in trucks making well over 1000hp moving 4700lbs for years.
Our rods are the weakest link, and if it wasn't for that they'd be like 03-04 cobras with a motor that can handle 7-800 hp reliably completely stock.
Nither Chris, Me or anyone else around here that are setup similar are nowhere near where the limit is, actually were pretty slow for these configurations. Theres quite a few in the 9's on a setup similar to ours. You know how much power it takes to get a 4000# brick in the 9's?
Its about the engineering threshold, I don't hate or even dislike imports, I own one. But when you design something around 200hp and push it to 6-700 its a whole world different then something that was designed for 400+ hp making 7-800. And you and I both know that the quality of even the most hyped up aftermarket stuff is sometimes not what it is hyped to be.
WWhittle
04-15-2011, 10:09 AM
Not really, for us most of the stock stuff is almost literally the best parts you could buy. Our stock transmissions, axles, rear ends, cranks, driveshafts, blocks, heads and even headgaskets have held up in trucks making well over 1000hp moving 4700lbs for years.
Our rods are the weakest link, and if it wasn't for that they'd be like 03-04 cobras with a motor that can handle 7-800 hp reliably completely stock.
Nither Chris, Me or anyone else around here that are setup similar are nowhere near where the limit is, actually were pretty slow for these configurations. Theres quite a few in the 9's on a setup similar to ours. You know how much power it takes to get a 4000# brick in the 9's?
Its about the engineering threshold, I don't hate or even dislike imports, I own one. But when you design something around 200hp and push it to 6-700 its a whole world different then something that was designed for 400+ hp making 7-800. And you and I both know that the quality of even the most hyped up aftermarket stuff is sometimes not what it is hyped to be.
I have some of the best stuff you can get and tear mine up all the time. When you are pushing the limits, things tend to break. That's just part of it. One of the things that seperate the guys at the top of the ladder and the guys at the bottom is the willingness to break parts. Some guys are scared to death something is going to break, and that's why they are slow. My car is fast but at the end of every pass I am happy if everything is still intact. But if something breaks, oh well, that's part of being fast.
If you started pushing yours to the absolute limits, you will start seeing broken parts on a regular basis too.
To the OP- keep at it!
ForceFed4g63
04-15-2011, 10:13 AM
I understand and I agree with you, especially about aftermarket stuff. But like I said, you can make the same argument with these cars. There are people deep into the 10's on completely stock, untouched motors on these cars, and Evo's with essentially the same motors are into the 9's on the stock block. You are absolutely right, it's about the engineering threshold, I just cringe when I hear people say "import" like it's a bad thing is all, especially when referring to DSM's. I guess I get a little defensive after all these years of hearing people bad mouth them (and no I'm not saying you did, I'm just saying in general) :cheers
DolSVT00
04-15-2011, 10:25 AM
I have some of the best stuff you can get and tear mine up all the time. When you are pushing the limits, things tend to break. That's just part of it. One of the things that seperate the guys at the top of the ladder and the guys at the bottom is the willingness to break parts. Some guys are scared to death something is going to break, and that's why they are slow. My car is fast but at the end of every pass I am happy if everything is still intact. But if something breaks, oh well, that's part of being fast.
If you started pushing yours to the absolute limits, you will start seeing broken parts on a regular basis too.
To the OP- keep at it!
Your car is a whole diferent level, if you where where we are with your stuff, you would be slow, but the things yours is built out of would take nothing short of dynamite to destroy at the level's of everyone else mentioned in this thread.
chrisheltra
04-15-2011, 10:29 AM
How the hell did I get dragged into this? LMAO
DolSVT00
04-15-2011, 10:31 AM
How the hell did I get dragged into this? LMAO
Your stuff is about to spontaniously combust thats why.
WWhittle
04-15-2011, 10:35 AM
Your car is a whole diferent level, if you where where we are with your stuff, you would be slow, but the things yours is built out of would take nothing short of dynamite to destroy at the level's of everyone else mentioned in this thread.
I put the equivalent of dynomite in every cylinder every pass!! LOL
chrisheltra
04-15-2011, 10:37 AM
Your stuff is about to spontaniously combust thats why.
As long as it doesnt take the house out with it. Maybe I should get the wife to back it out of the garage? :hysterical:
spontaneously combust LMAO
DolSVT00
04-15-2011, 10:40 AM
I put the equivalent of dynomite in every cylinder every pass!! LOL
I know thats right!
Maybe I should get the wife to back it out of the garage? :hysterical:
spontaneously combust LMAO
You just gave me an idea that would cure all my problems.
chrisheltra
04-15-2011, 11:38 AM
You just gave me an idea that would cure all my problems.
???
CINDERBLOCK
04-15-2011, 01:39 PM
OP you car is NASTY!!!! I would love to see a solid full pass!
chrisheltra
04-15-2011, 01:41 PM
OP you car is NASTY!!!! I would love to see a solid full pass!
+1
slowgreen99
04-15-2011, 02:13 PM
I have some of the best stuff you can get and tear mine up all the time. When you are pushing the limits, things tend to break. That's just part of it. One of the things that seperate the guys at the top of the ladder and the guys at the bottom is the willingness to break parts. Some guys are scared to death something is going to break, and that's why they are slow. My car is fast but at the end of every pass I am happy if everything is still intact. But if something breaks, oh well, that's part of being fast.
If you started pushing yours to the absolute limits, you will start seeing broken parts on a regular basis too.
To the OP- keep at it!
Dont beat around the bush, just say Matt....
chrisheltra
04-15-2011, 02:14 PM
Dont beat around the bush, just say Matt....
He cant be talking about Matt because hes in a perpetual state of brokenness. :hysterical:
Matts94Z28
04-15-2011, 02:21 PM
Thanks guys.
chrisheltra
04-15-2011, 02:22 PM
Thanks guys.
Just clearing your good name bro. :bigthumb:
Whaler
04-15-2011, 02:47 PM
As long as it doesnt take the house out with it. Maybe I should get the wife to back it out of the garage? :hysterical:
spontaneously combust LMAO
I know thats right!
You just gave me an idea that would cure all my problems.
You mean a cure like this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb1Pisd0BQY
LilRedEclipse
04-15-2011, 05:30 PM
Guys I built this thing to beat the hell out of it. Maybe they break alot... but hey look at it this way.
If I can make 800 with a 4cylinder imagine what I would do with a v8.. :D You guys would just be shit out of luck! haha
Im joking by the way...
White00gt
04-15-2011, 08:18 PM
Guys I built this thing to beat the hell out of it. Maybe they break alot... but hey look at it this way.
If I can make 800 with a 4cylinder imagine what I would do with a v8.. :D You guys would just be shit out of luck! haha
Im joking by the way...
Anything and everything breaks when you lean on it.. Don't worry about the yahoo's. lol. Keep at it thats a killer ride, not very many people can put up the numbers you did with double the stuff. Just sux your torched the head, I did that with a set of 2v heads and was kinda pissed, but hey, thats racing.
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