View Full Version : Dorchester Dragway; Every 3rd Saturday
Just got a text from Ryan this morning that I figured everyone would like to know about... in case you haven't heard already.
Every third Saturday of the month Dorchester is doing a 'Street Racing' night. Gates open at 9 pm and it's only $5 to run.
We also have the option of racing without the tree and running with an arm drop instead... That'll mix it up a bit. So if anyone knows a sexy ass girl who doesn't do shit on Saturday nights, bring her ass to do work!
I think that's about it.
I'M OUT! :Finger2:
BAD BOB
06-03-2011, 04:56 PM
sounds like a ricers dream
1998ta__1991rs
06-03-2011, 06:06 PM
itll be a great idea if he would keep all of yall out of the tower so everyone wouldnt run their mouth about how fast a car is
BAD BOB
06-03-2011, 09:00 PM
yeah been there done that. not the coolest thing to be doin
Darryl Buckner
06-03-2011, 10:53 PM
Already spoke to junior about that, but I am sure nothing will happen.
///Mcompact
06-04-2011, 04:45 AM
He has been talking about this forever. It will never happen.
BAD BOB
06-04-2011, 11:12 AM
Yea I see a few people and know for fact that they talk about what cars are running...it's not only bullshit, it's pretty dangerous in a sense. If someone mentions a car that is really serious into grudging (some making a living off of it), that could end up with someone getting hurt possibly. Sucks to know that there are more than 3 people knowing what a grudge car runs. The driver, tower operator, and ticket guy should be the only ones....granted the ticket guy has been known to tell all too.
slowgreen99
ShawnBoyMoody
06-04-2011, 11:44 AM
Yea I see a few people and know for fact that they talk about what cars are running...it's not only bullshit, it's pretty dangerous in a sense. If someone mentions a car that is really serious into grudging (some making a living off of it), that could end up with someone getting hurt possibly. Sucks to know that there are more than 3 people knowing what a grudge car runs. The driver, tower operator, and ticket guy should be the only ones....granted the ticket guy has been known to tell all too.
slowgreen99
Live by the sword die by the sword I say.
///Mcompact
06-04-2011, 12:00 PM
Yea I see a few people and know for fact that they talk about what cars are running...
slowgreen99
Then "out" those names right here so the accused can face their accusers.
Matts94Z28
06-04-2011, 12:44 PM
They told me Brandon was bustin off 6.9's!
ShawnBoyMoody
06-04-2011, 02:19 PM
They told me Brandon was bustin off 6.9's!
Only when he sprays the slow bitch.
BAD BOB
06-04-2011, 02:45 PM
Well i heard that shawnieboy done retired again and went to boating bc of the RCF!! guess he feels i wont be on the water so he might have a chance!
bwelch
06-04-2011, 03:07 PM
Time to build a stock internal ls1 turbo grudge boat!
DDtower
06-04-2011, 03:10 PM
Let's get this bullshit down right now when I have people/family member of the tower the screens with the time are turned off so no one can see the time and by the way anybody can talk time but is it right I think NOT.
If you people feels like time are being told keep your 5 bucks and go slander another track cause before you know it all your local track will be gone and then what the hell are you to do but bitch and moan about there no lacal tracks to go to.
And on a good note we are doing street night every third saturday right after our bracket race. And you can ask for a ARM DROP if you want to do it that way!
Let's get this bullshit ............what the hell are you to do but bitch and moan about there no lacal tracks to go to.
Welcome to the site sir. If you don't mind stop by the intro section and introduce yourself.
98nbmz
06-04-2011, 03:17 PM
Let's get this bullshit down right now when I have people/family member of the tower the screens with the time are turned off so no one can see the time and by the way anybody can talk time but is it right I think NOT.
If you people feels like time are being told keep your 5 bucks and go slander another track cause before you know it all your local track will be gone and then what the hell are you to do but bitch and moan about there no lacal tracks to go to.
And on a good note we are doing street night every third saturday right after our bracket race. And you can ask for a ARM DROP if you want to do it that way!
Bowman is plenty close enough for most people, and if this is your attitude about trying to improve the track then your way out of line. Keep it up and nobody will be coming to your dance club anymore.
ShawnBoyMoody
06-04-2011, 03:28 PM
Well i heard that shawnieboy done retired again and went to boating bc of the RCF!! guess he feels i wont be on the water so he might have a chance!
Please. Ive accomplished what I came to do. My car is faster than Brandon's shitbox. Proven by the fact that he wont race me on motor and further proven by the fact he wont post his times. Oh wait he still thinks he gonna be a big boy grudge racer one day. I forgets.
What I find more humorous is the fact that you BAD BOB allow all these boys to swing for your nuts like they are a piece of playground equipment but you give no love in return whatsoever??? Could it be you are quite disappointed in the performance of your main cheerleaders 408, or are you just a one way fuck? All take and no give maybe?
Dont make me come after you Robert. I will hurt your feelings. GTFO
chrisheltra
06-04-2011, 03:47 PM
Let's get this bullshit down right now when I have people/family member of the tower the screens with the time are turned off so no one can see the time and by the way anybody can talk time but is it right I think NOT.
If you people feels like time are being told keep your 5 bucks and go slander another track cause before you know it all your local track will be gone and then what the hell are you to do but bitch and moan about there no lacal tracks to go to.
And on a good note we are doing street night every third saturday right after our bracket race. And you can ask for a ARM DROP if you want to do it that way!
Please. Ive accomplished what I came to do. My car is faster than Brandon's shitbox. Proven by the fact that he wont race me on motor and further proven by the fact he wont post his times. Oh wait he still thinks he gonna be a big boy grudge racer one day. I forgets.
What I find more humorous is the fact that you BAD BOB allow all these boys to swing for your nuts like they are a piece of playground equipment but you give no love in return whatsoever??? Could it be you are quite disappointed in the performance of your main cheerleaders 408, or are you just a one way fuck? All take and no give maybe?
Dont make me come after you Robert. I will hurt your feelings. GTFO
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1998ta__1991rs
06-04-2011, 03:57 PM
Let's get this bullshit down right now when I have people/family member of the tower the screens with the time are turned off so no one can see the time and by the way anybody can talk time but is it right I think NOT.
If you people feels like time are being told keep your 5 bucks and go slander another track cause before you know it all your local track will be gone and then what the hell are you to do but bitch and moan about there no lacal tracks to go to.
And on a good note we are doing street night every third saturday right after our bracket race. And you can ask for a ARM DROP if you want to do it that way!
i wasnt trying to slander anyone, but when only 4 people know the exact number a car ran on a certian date and someone walks up to you and tells you that exact number and mph, and you ask them how they know, they say "im friends with ryan and was in the tower when he made that pass". it kinda proves your statement wrong
BAD BOB
06-04-2011, 04:02 PM
Please. Ive accomplished what I came to do. My car is faster than Brandon's shitbox. Proven by the fact that he wont race me on motor and further proven by the fact he wont post his times. Oh wait he still thinks he gonna be a big boy grudge racer one day. I forgets.
What I find more humorous is the fact that you BAD BOB allow all these boys to swing for your nuts like they are a piece of playground equipment but you give no love in return whatsoever??? Could it be you are quite disappointed in the performance of your main cheerleaders 408, or are you just a one way fuck? All take and no give maybe?
Dont make me come after you Robert. I will hurt your feelings. GTFO
well first off i dont feel that they are swinging from anyones nuts. we all have our ways of doing things and budgets to do so.
second off, please come after me and hurt my feelings. bc by the time you get that little "shitbox" of yours moving even faster than my huffy, i will probably be in an old folks home. sell that ford and get an ls1 and you can be on my team!
p.s. glad to see i can still get under your skin
STOCK INTERNAL LS1 FTW
///Mcompact
06-04-2011, 04:04 PM
Everyone brace yourselves...this just turned into a triple-threat thread. In this thread we have talks of a street car night, accusations of people blurting out times (and still no names mentioned), and then RCF vs. Shawnyboy.
I LOVE THIS FORUM!!!!:hysterical:
1998ta__1991rs
06-04-2011, 04:05 PM
Everyone brace yourselves...this just turned into a triple-threat thread. In this thread we have talks of a street car night, accusations of people blurting out times (and still no names mentioned), and then RCF vs. Shawnyboy.
I LOVE THIS FORUM!!!!:hysterical:
it has the possibility of epic thread of the year, all we need now is SMMS
ShawnBoyMoody
06-04-2011, 04:06 PM
well first off i dont feel that they are swinging from anyones nuts. we all have our ways of doing things and budgets to do so.
second off, please come after me and hurt my feelings. bc by the time you get that little "shitbox" of yours moving even faster than my huffy, i will probably be in an old folks home. sell that ford and get an ls1 and you can be on my team!
p.s. glad to see i can still get under your skin
STOCK INTERNAL LS1 FTW
Yep. Dumbshit comments always find a way under my skin. Unlike you sir I dont need a chevy motor to be fast. My car has been together all of 6 months....Did you ever run anywhere close to a 6.65 with your SBF? Gimme some time brother. I WILL shut your big mouth.
///Mcompact
06-04-2011, 04:09 PM
it has the possibility of epic thread of the year, all we need now is SMMS
Some More Metro-Sexuals? What does SMMS mean?
BAD BOB
06-04-2011, 04:10 PM
Let's get this bullshit down right now when I have people/family member of the tower the screens with the time are turned off so no one can see the time and by the way anybody can talk time but is it right I think NOT.
If you people feels like time are being told keep your 5 bucks and go slander another track cause before you know it all your local track will be gone and then what the hell are you to do but bitch and moan about there no lacal tracks to go to.
And on a good note we are doing street night every third saturday right after our bracket race. And you can ask for a ARM DROP if you want to do it that way!
Im just working off the fact that someone came to a few friends of mine and spoke of the time my car ran exactly the weekend after and said that someone that worked the tower told him. and on the statment on taking my car elsewhere, i hope most of them do to prove the point that yall dont have a monopoly anymore round here and that bowman is a great track and hopefully midway will be to so it will show that yall will have to put some money back in the track and not just your pockets. and be easy with all the curse words, my son dont need to hear all that nonsence
BAD BOB
06-04-2011, 04:13 PM
Yep. Dumbshit comments always find a way under my skin. Unlike you sir I dont need a chevy motor to be fast. My car has been together all of 6 months....Did you ever run anywhere close to a 6.65 with your SBF? Gimme some time brother. I WILL shut your big mouth.
tic toc tic toc tic toc. hope that ford motor be running some 6.20s or you aint got a chance in hell. i say be both line them up tommorrow and see whats up
ShawnBoyMoody
06-04-2011, 04:25 PM
tic toc tic toc tic toc. hope that ford motor be running some 6.20s or you aint got a chance in hell. i say be both line them up tommorrow and see whats up
Tranny is out of the car. You run 6.20s like I run 7.50s. GTFO. Anywhoo answer the question.
BAD BOB
06-04-2011, 04:31 PM
only ran the car one time with the 306 in it. needed a carb to run right and i decided to go the smart route, LS1. now with my stock motor with just cam and converter my car did run a 6.80 on motor. thats about as good as you on nawz
bwelch
06-04-2011, 04:56 PM
Let's get this bullshit down right now when I have people/family member of the tower the screens with the time are turned off so no one can see the time and by the way anybody can talk time but is it right I think NOT.
If you people feels like time are being told keep your 5 bucks and go slander another track cause before you know it all your local track will be gone and then what the hell are you to do but bitch and moan about there no lacal tracks to go to.
And on a good note we are doing street night every third saturday right after our bracket race. And you can ask for a ARM DROP if you want to do it that way!
Your full of shit. Exact times have been said. Also $5? When is it $5 to come run my car? Your horrible attitude will be the reason all your loyal customers dont come back. Shit Buckner used to be at dorchester every sunday with the LTD. Now he hardly comes. Wonder why? Its the horrible track prep. The only time the track prep is worth a shit lately is when yall bring the 4.70 cars out or have a big race.
Take that as slander. I dont give a f@ck but its the truth. If you have a problem with it come find the fat white guy in the Blue G8.
ShawnBoyMoody
06-04-2011, 05:29 PM
only ran the car one time with the 306 in it. needed a carb to run right and i decided to go the smart route, LS1. now with my stock motor with just cam and converter my car did run a 6.80 on motor. thats about as good as you on nawz
I call bs. Better yet I call you a liar. You never ran anywhere close to a 6.80 on motor.
ShawnBoyMoody
06-04-2011, 05:30 PM
Your full of shit. Exact times have been said. Also $5? When is it $5 to come run my car? Your horrible attitude will be the reason all your loyal customers dont come back. Shit Buckner used to be at dorchester every sunday with the LTD. Now he hardly comes. Wonder why? Its the horrible track prep. The only time the track prep is worth a shit lately is when yall bring the 4.70 cars out or have a big race.
Take that as slander. I dont give a f@ck but its the truth. If you have a problem with it come find the fat white guy in the Blue G8.
Preach on brotha. Amen
BAD BOB
06-04-2011, 05:43 PM
I call bs. Better yet I call you a liar. You never ran anywhere close to a 6.80 on motor.
haters gonna hate. i will bet you that the damn motor in my car on motor went a 6.85 i think it was on motor sir. i know its hard to grasp your ford loving head around but it is in fact true.
bwelch
06-04-2011, 05:52 PM
6.85 was on mota. When you had the th350 in it.
I think the "cam only record" is 7.0ish in a F-body.
ShawnBoyMoody
06-04-2011, 06:00 PM
The question was what you ran with a Ford motor. I could care less what you ran with a LS motor.
BAD BOB
06-04-2011, 06:13 PM
The question was what you ran with a Ford motor. I could care less what you ran with a LS motor.
that was with the ls1 who cares about a ford motor
Matts94Z28
06-04-2011, 06:26 PM
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perm102
06-04-2011, 07:38 PM
Let's get this bullshit down right now when I have people/family member of the tower the screens with the time are turned off so no one can see the time and by the way anybody can talk time but is it right I think NOT.
If you people feels like time are being told keep your 5 bucks and go slander another track cause before you know it all your local track will be gone and then what the hell are you to do but bitch and moan about there no lacal tracks to go to.
And on a good note we are doing street night every third saturday right after our bracket race. And you can ask for a ARM DROP if you want to do it that way!
You are in business to make money and not run everyone off right? With now three tracks within 1 hour of most people on this board you may want to rethink some things. :bigthumb:
1998ta__1991rs
06-04-2011, 08:29 PM
You are in business to make money and not run everyone off right? With now three tracks within 1 hour of most people on this board you may want to rethink some things. :bigthumb:
with bowman making improvements weekly and the way the track works so much better its worth the extra 30 min drive for me. if they were open on sunday dorchester wouldnt even be an option
1998ta__1991rs
06-04-2011, 08:30 PM
Let's get this bullshit down right now when I have people/family member of the tower the screens with the time are turned off so no one can see the time and by the way anybody can talk time but is it right I think NOT.
If you people feels like time are being told keep your 5 bucks and go slander another track cause before you know it all your local track will be gone and then what the hell are you to do but bitch and moan about there no lacal tracks to go to.
And on a good note we are doing street night every third saturday right after our bracket race. And you can ask for a ARM DROP if you want to do it that way!
and BTW great way to come on here and represent the track, you sure did make a great first impression :bigthumb:
Matts94Z28
06-05-2011, 01:59 AM
and BTW great way to come on here and represent the track, you sure did make a great first impression :bigthumb:
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trickey
06-05-2011, 06:13 AM
Feeling the love from the beginning of this thread........
Illusions
06-05-2011, 11:01 AM
damn, ran out of popcorn.
Damn I sure did miss a lot, this got crazy quick...
As Kiley said, I would love to see some names posted of said loudmouths, and also what they louded out, since everyone seems to know in such detail.
And as for an arm drop being a ricer's dream, I'm sure that's exactly what the producers/creators of Pinks were thinking whenever they came up with the show. "Man this sure will be great, can't wait to have a bunch of 4-banger ricer retards on the show so we can make some real TV!"
You know you like the idea... Unless you're a quadriplegic that like pretty lights that change color to tell you when to release the button on a trans brake.
I like different, especially when you're doing something as monotonous as driving a car straight down a track and shifting a few gears. It adds another variable which ultimately makes drag racing more of a challenge, and in turn, more fun. For me anyways.
:cheers
slowgreen99
06-05-2011, 05:32 PM
H.J. Carnell is one name that comes to mind. No offense to him...It's not his fault he can find out stuff. And im pretty sure theres someone that's been in trouble for it before and still works there. But I wont loud anyone out on that.
LDELEE
06-06-2011, 11:23 AM
Hi, guys. I'm Leonard, one of the new owners of the track. Yesterday was my first time ever visitng this site, after being told by a close friend that i needed to see this thread. As a result, today will be my first time posting. As I felt compelled to address the issue at hand.
First and foremost, I would like to apologize for Ryan's unprofessional response and behavior on this board. And state, that we do not condone any such behavior under any circumstances! The issue that is the topic of discussion has been quickly addressed and an immediate course of action has been taken. Starting immediately only track personnel will be allowed in the tower, no exceptions!
From this day forward, only myself (LDELEE) or my cousin (EDELEE) will be posting or making any response on behalf of Dorchester Dragway. Eventhough, Ryan's response was titled DDtower it DOESN'T REFLECT OUR COMMON GOAL AND LONGTERM VISION. It was a personal response from an employee, that we had no idea was being made until someone notified us. We did talk to a few racers yesterday regarding this matter that made a post on the subject. I can assure you, you will see the change taking place and thanks for taking the time to talk to us. Thanks, LDELEE
Good to hear sir.... It's not that we despise your track but it seems to have been neglected for a while.... Tracks don't have to be pretty or huge they just need to work... Take bowman for instance.. hole in the wall but the track works GOOD. I'm not bashing you or the track it would be a wise investment seeing as you are THE closest track around...
LDELEE
06-06-2011, 11:57 AM
Thanks, CMD for the feedback.
ForceFed4g63
06-06-2011, 11:59 AM
Thanks for the professional response. We all want it to be a good track, I for one don't want to have to drive any farther to go to a track.
LDELEE
06-06-2011, 12:08 PM
Forcefed, we are trying to cater to all forms of racing including imports. I know its not to many places for you guy's to go and we definately don't want any racing on the streets. That's why we are trying to establish Saturday Late Night Import racing for you guy's. Help us spread the word if you can.
1998ta__1991rs
06-06-2011, 12:10 PM
the best thing yall can do is just get the track working, for us guys on radials its pretty much a waste of time to go to dorchester mainly because we dont know if the track will work or not. I have left straight from bowman on a sunday cutting 1.2x 60's on radials and an hour later at dorchester couldnt do better than a 1.5x. The majorty of us can deal with all the dumb shit (loud music, disorganization, the nastiest bathrooms ever, crowds of people standing in the pits refusing to move, etc.) if the track just worked. Why should racers have to put up with the b/s if the track doesnt even hook. It seems most nights Dorchester is nothing but a night club with a race track that noone cares about.
Darryl Buckner
06-06-2011, 12:14 PM
Damn I sure did miss a lot, this got crazy quick...
As Kiley said, I would love to see some names posted of said loudmouths, and also what they louded out, since everyone seems to know in such detail.
And as for an arm drop being a ricer's dream, I'm sure that's exactly what the producers/creators of Pinks were thinking whenever they came up with the show. "Man this sure will be great, can't wait to have a bunch of 4-banger ricer retards on the show so we can make some real TV!"
You know you like the idea... Unless you're a quadriplegic that like pretty lights that change color to tell you when to release the button on a trans brake.
I like different, especially when you're doing something as monotonous as driving a car straight down a track and shifting a few gears. It adds another variable which ultimately makes drag racing more of a challenge, and in turn, more fun. For me anyways.
:cheers
Not that it really matters to me, and I really don't know the people at SSS, but I was out there in the LTD 4 or so weeks ago, and a guy came up to me, and said he had no idea my car ran 5.90s, and it was a really nice car. All I know is he drove a Honda Civic coupe. I am not a grudge racer and you can pick up a Muscle Mustang and Fast Ford magazine most of the time and see what I run in the quarter, and get a good idea of eighth mile times, hell most people who ask what I run, I will give you the ticket. To a grudge racer silence is of the most importance, and it does matter to them if people know what they run. Most everyone on here knows I have always been pro Dorchester, not that I don't race anywhere else, cause I do. I think Lennie and Junior, have a really big project ahead of them, but they are atleast making an effort to correct things. Keep in mind they wasn't handed a perfect track to start off with, or a big budget, but I believe they are pretty determined to get it back to the hooking / grudge track it use to be. Just give them a chance to get going.
RobertHolton1
06-06-2011, 12:23 PM
it has the possibility of epic thread of the year, all we need now is SMMS
Im watching... LOL
ForceFed4g63
06-06-2011, 12:26 PM
Forcefed, we are trying to cater to all forms of racing including imports. I know its not to many places for you guy's to go and we definately don't want any racing on the streets. That's why we are trying to establish Saturday Late Night Import racing for you guy's. Help us spread the word if you can.
I will definitely do that, even though I don't drive an import lol
LDELEE
06-06-2011, 12:30 PM
Thanks, for the comment. You hit it right on the head. @1998ta, I understand your concerns and we are working hard to reslove them. Every Sunday I take the time to talk to a few racers in the pits and most have agreed that the traction is improving and they see that we are trying.
RobertHolton1
06-06-2011, 12:34 PM
i agree i race there almost everytime its open, i see improvements, !!!
Illusions
06-06-2011, 12:36 PM
Thanks, for the comment. You hit it right on the head. @1998ta, I understand your concerns and we are working hard to reslove them. Every Sunday I take the time to talk to a few racers in the pits and most have agreed that the traction is improving and they see that we are trying.
But nothing about the OTHER issues he brought up?
the dumb shit (loud music, disorganization, the nastiest bathrooms ever, crowds of people standing in the pits refusing to move, etc.)
:?
LDELEE
06-06-2011, 12:47 PM
@ Illusions currently we are seeking quotes on our bathroom project. We have recieved several so far and now were making the decision on what type of material and who we want to do the job. Please keep in mind we just had close to a $10k race last week that wasn't put on by a promoter, but the track itself. We wanted to get that behind us then resume on our renovation project.
Illusions
06-06-2011, 01:05 PM
Bathroom renovations would be nice. I can piss anywhere it's the wife that has a problem with it. ;)
1998ta__1991rs
06-06-2011, 01:08 PM
The best thing you can do is bulldoze the bathroom and put a few portapottys up
Harry
06-06-2011, 02:07 PM
@ Illusions currently we are seeking quotes on our bathroom project. We have recieved several so far and now were making the decision on what type of material and who we want to do the job. Please keep in mind we just had close to a $10k race last week that wasn't put on by a promoter, but the track itself. We wanted to get that behind us then resume on our renovation project.
Hey guys, Great to see you on here and addressing the issues. :bigthumb:
bigboy7742
06-06-2011, 07:29 PM
Good to hear sir.... It's not that we despise your track but it seems to have been neglected for a while.... Tracks don't have to be pretty or huge they just need to work... Take bowman for instance.. hole in the wall but the track works GOOD. I'm not bashing you or the track it would be a wise investment seeing as you are THE closest track around...
Bowman a hole in the wall its not that bad to me
Darryl Buckner
06-06-2011, 08:20 PM
I will definitely do that, even though I don't drive an import lol
Your not an import, driving a SRT4 Neon with a mitsubishi drive train? ooooooooook..:bigthumb:
Darryl Buckner
06-06-2011, 08:24 PM
Just keep working on improvements and you will be ok. Although I some what agree with Zac on the bathroom thing, port-o-lets might be better. No cleaning or maintenance required by track personel..:bigthumb:
slowgreen99
06-06-2011, 08:40 PM
Glad that yall pulled me aside last night to talk to me. It shows that at least you care about what is being said. Like Zac said about the track working...it would be nice to be able to be consistent at two local tracks rather than having to change setups/tunes/tires to go to a different track. And I also agree to a port-a-potty deal. Im scared that somethings gonna jump up and bite me in the restrooms, and the gf isnt a fan of the girls room either....so renovate the ladys bathroom and have the guys ruin the portas.
ShawnBoyMoody
06-07-2011, 01:13 AM
And I also agree to a port-a-potty deal. Im scared that somethings gonna jump up and bite me in the restrooms, and the gf isnt a fan of the girls room either....so renovate the ladys bathroom and have the guys ruin the portas.
Your not scared somebody might take a dump in your front seat? Folks might get confused.
ForceFed4g63
06-07-2011, 08:41 AM
Your not an import, driving a SRT4 Neon with a mitsubishi drive train? ooooooooook..:bigthumb:
Hmmm an SRT-4 built here in the states, designed in-house by Chrysler, using 84% US parts...not sure how that qualifies as an import, but ok :cheers
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