That's why many of the bigger shops use Mustang Dynos

I went and had a great time. Im still anticipating the vids *hint hint*


Not this guy I even updated my sig to reflect the new numbers.:hysterical:

I believe Mikes post below sum's it up well.

I didn't post my numbers because they were less than the last time I ran on the dyno 418/537 on 10* of timing and 7 cyl's ( thanks Chris and Stew for noticing the Miss) I found out one of my coil packs was bad (I had been trying to tighten up the gap because of a noticeable miss).

Tightening the gap up made the miss less noticeable, but it was noticed by cyclic puffÔÇÖs in my exhaust by Chris and Stew. I pulled them all and had Mike Ohm them, we found one that was slightly different than the rest (very slightly), I switched it out and had my brother follow me lastnite and it seemÔÇÖs to have fixed the problem.

Good deal Im glad you have that all sorted out.

ok my slow pig only put down 304/411tq with what turns out to be about a 75 shot of the gigglie gas. i only lost 5 hp and tq from a dynojet at LS1powertuning to showzones. It pulled a 248hp/278tq n/a. I still have a lot of work to do. She's still pig rich.

I told ya brother man....I waws pretty damn sure it was a failing CP...but not 100% Glad to see ya got it sorted out brother..!

Yeah it was good times and watching the Ego Smasher in action taking its tolls on everyones ride....Randdy wasnt bullshiting when he said that Dyno woudl make Baby Jesus Cry LOL....Great meeting all you guys out there that showed!

nice!

Will start editing videos and all tonight. Unless someone aka randy or mike wants me to burn everything to a cd and give to them to play with. I just got home and am tired as all hell right now.

chris, i plugged your numbers into the wallace racing calc, i used 4600 as the weight and this is what it says



Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 490.60 flywheel HP and 441.54 rear wheel HP.
Your HP computed from your vehicle MPH is 470.74 flywheel HP and 423.666 rear wheel HP.

what did the 2 different dyno's you have been on say?

Ive been on 4 different dynos two mustang and two dyno jets.

mustang dynos read
433 and 522
380 and 456

dyno jets read
42X and 51X
42X and 51X

Also the weight of the truck is probably closer to 4800-5000 pounds which would increase the number on the calculations. As long as I run what I normally do at the strip and do it consistently Im happy.

4900lbs. i was just curious since i know you have been on at least 2

Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 522.60 flywheel HP and 470.34 rear wheel HP.
Your HP computed from your vehicle MPH is 501.44 flywheel HP and 451.296 rear wheel HP.

On my old stock block at the track I usually ran 7.6ish in the 1/8
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/downloads1/newbest1.jpg

or 12.10 in the 1/4 http://mywebpages.comcast.net/downloads1/quatermile.jpg

Here is what the truck made back then http://mywebpages.comcast.net/rsmith1/dyno.jpg
Look at the dates (the numbers were from over a year ago) and calculate that. BTW I made 502/575 on a dynojet at the begining of this year......... And its 2/10ths faster than it used to be now.

4700lb 7.62 at 92

Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 537.63 flywheel HP and 483.867 rear wheel HP.
Your HP computed from your vehicle MPH is 568.75 flywheel HP and 511.875 rear wheel HP.

4700 12.10 at 109



Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 430.66 rear wheel HP and 478.51 flywheel HP.
Your HP computed from your vehicle MPH is 427.54 rear wheel HP and 475.04 flywheel HP.

The industry standard is a dyno jet. All major performance companies (banks, k&n, magnaflow, flowmaster and the list goes on) use dynojets and most race shops. They also have the eddycurrent brake add on just like a mustang dyno uses. Mustang dyno's are just known more for having the brake because most shops including myself didnt want to spend another $15k to have the eddy current brake add on, the $30k for the dyno was bad enough. 99% of the shops I know of or deal with all use dynojets. It may be differnt in the ford world. There are 4 dynojets here in Charleston and only one has the brake.

dont confuse the issue with facts

That explains why K& N, Banks, Magnaflow, flowmaster and the rest of em advertize gains through the use of their products but yet you gain nothing on 90% of it.

They must test Octane boosters on them too...............

I stand corrected.

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/attachm...3&d=1204248246


these are my old numbers when i had the procharger and the old engine on a mustang dyno with eddy current. the showzone dyno reads low even for a mustang dyno. mine was not done on the showzone dyno.

Yeah I can see why youd be disappointed. :roll:

Heck Chris you made better numbers on a mustang dyno than you did on a dynojet........ Not all dyno's are created equal, and all of them are printer bullshit generators.

Track numbers FTMFW...................... :Finger2:

Baby jesus cries when he see's this http://www.mustangdyne.com/MDAWD500DE.htm

What happened to the old fashioned butt dyno? :hysterical: :poke:

Is this the one your referring to?

http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main...5e6b6238f4bea3

:hysterical:

Good price too.

only reason i posted it was because that engine set up is gone now. i lost the original engine on the showzone dyno. i know that dyno well.

pardon me for being stupid, but i see Chris' numbers on 2 different dynojets being very close yet his number on 2 different mustangs are on the far ends of the spectrum.

i'm a little confused about why your so proud of the show zones dyno that seems to spit out low/not correct numbers.

What makes you think they are incorrect, because their low? And what makes you think that the dynojet is soo correct, because their high?

Nither mean a bag of shit at the strip.

well because chris has been on 2 mustangs and they are uncapable of producing the same result yet 2 different dynojets produced the same result.

and yes it does matter at the strip, an adjusable chassis will get set up different on a low hp car than a high one. so for example, a guy puts a turbo on his 4 link race car. he dynos it on a dyno that spits out a low number. chassis man sets up a short high IC and takes it to the track and the car drags the back bumper and slams to the ground brealkin everything all because of a dyno that is not calibrated correctly.

Heres a better scenario, man takes car to dynojet to tune and set air fuel, man makes 2 second pull to red line and gets a great air fuel, man loads up car and takes to track, man makes pass down 1/4 mile where car see's big load, man's motor destroys itself because it went lean from tuning on dynojet with no load. Man has to spend 10,000$ on new motor.

yes, i can see how that would be important on a turbo car. thats a good point.

ok, im confused again, will a turbo car build more boost on a mustang dyno than a dynojet?

No idea, but I would think it would take longer to build peak boost as if it were running at the track because of the resistance put on the drive train by load imposed by an eddy current power absorber.

What hes saying is on every dyno we have been on it was a quick 5 second or better pull. On show zones it is much longer because there is more load. At the track your run is longer than 5 seconds due to the load.

All hes saying is the show zone seems to be much more accurate replicating street/strip load. That doesnt mean the numbers are correct. Remember all a dyno is is a tuning tool and a BS number generator. The latter is much more important.

These are (similarly) powered trucks

Dynojet http://www.carolinahorsepower.com/Daryl/2.wmv

Mustang http://www.carolinahorsepower.com/Mike/q161.wmv

Take it for what its worth.

NO Chris. That is not what I was refering too! Funny though!:hysterical:

Wow if showzones dyno reads LOWER than the normal mustang dyno. Wonder what numbers really good have been. Hmmmmm :D

do you know the et and mph for those trucks?

I wouldn't say that it reads lower than a normal mustang dyno or any dyno, if there was any possible way to compare show zones dyno to another dyno I would never compare it to Amazon's mustang dyno it read higher than the dynojet when he was much slower at the track. Its well known that Amazon messes with the numbers so their customers don't walk away dissapointed. Thats a mute point, and a testament to the fact that mustang numbers can be fuged, i will never deny that.

My numbers have alwayse been consistant at show zone and i've made more that 12 pulls there in the last 2 years.

They have them posted, I believe their both around 6.7ish at 102-104 in the 1/8th. I dont think Mike has made it to the 1/4 since he has gotten it running right.

also they both weighed in somewhere around 4700-4800lbs

well here is what the wallace calc says
4700 6.70 at 103


Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 790.91 flywheel HP and 711.819 rear wheel HP.
Your HP computed from your vehicle MPH is 798.12 flywheel HP and 718.308 rear wheel HP.

most guys say this is very accurate and it has been very accurate for my car