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ShawnBoyMoody 10-07-2011 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by yota (Post 135345)
:(
The other motor is yours if you need it.

Carlrx7 10-07-2011 06:42 PM
that oil pressure scares me. should be a solid 40psi at idle if healthy.

BigdaddyDupree 10-07-2011 06:49 PM
oil pressure was good in first vid. hmmmm

1998ta__1991rs 10-07-2011 06:55 PM
not near enough oil pressure, sounds like its knocking

yota 10-07-2011 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlrx7 (Post 135351)
that oil pressure scares me. should be a solid 40psi at idle if healthy.
yeah... me too... looks like this motor will be coming out

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigdaddyDupree (Post 135359)
oil pressure was good in first vid. hmmmm
yep... not so good on the second... ive literally put about 15 miles max on this motor... guessing more shit has come loose inside and is starting to clog the pickup... its hard to hear in the video but also sounds like some rod knock or similar going on in there, even at idle... definitely no good

yota 10-07-2011 07:34 PM
just sent this pm to the guy i bought the engine from... i honestly cant WAIT to get a response from him...


Quote:
Originally Posted by 83yota
the motor is junk... it runs but after less than 15 miles is knocking... at one point, it was locked up- which you are already aware of due to me calling you when i found out about it, we sprayed 3 cans of pb blaster in it and let it sit overnight, got it turning, finished the install... had a slight setback due to an incorrect o-ring on the pickup, that was my fault, but we got that sorted out and got oil pressure... when we pulled the pan to look into the oiling issue, there was so much junk in there it looked like someone threw a handful of top soil in the engine, it was disgusting... we cleaned it all out, reassembled it, ran it for a couple minutes, changed the oil again, checked it and it looked pretty clean... drove it today for the first time and oil pressure seemed good at first... i drove no more than 15 miles on this engine and it is knocking and wont hold proper oil pressure already... here is a video of what i'm dealing with:

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to say that i'm not happy with the engine would be an understatement... when you pull plugs that look like the pics below from a locked up motor, you know it isnt going to be good... in this case it just got worse as we progressed... i honestly feel like the motor is not what it was represented to be and i should get some money back... right now i'm out the $700 i paid you, the $150 i spent coming to get it, $100+ in fluids and filters, 3 days of my own personal labor/time, $375 in shop costs, and so far a whole week without my truck... i dont know, or really care honestly, if you knew the engine was bad when you had it, but the fact of the matter is, you sold me a junk motor... thoughts?

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ShawnBoyMoody 10-07-2011 07:37 PM
Perfectly reasonable PM I'd say.

WTFWSAT 10-07-2011 07:38 PM
How many miles did the engine have on it? I dont know much about ls stuff but that plug gap looks huge. That leads me to think the engine has well over 100k miles and was in need for a rebuild which is why it ended up in the junkyard.

Hope you dont take that the wrong way, not trying to be an a$$

yota 10-07-2011 07:41 PM
i was told less than 100k on the engine... lsx gap is around .050-.060 from what my research said and iirc we gapped my new plugs to .050... no offense taken, i already know i got screwed and pending his response, i will hopefully know how badly soon...

Sean 10-07-2011 07:50 PM
Well...you still remember where he lives?

yota 10-07-2011 09:20 PM
yep... sure do... have his address and everything...

yota 10-07-2011 09:22 PM
just got this reply from him... are you kidding me?

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arron i hate you are going thru all this trouble and if i knew anything was wrong with the motor i would'nt have sold it to you...fact is i bought it from a person in which got it from a salvage yard(still has the salvage yard writing on the motor)so it had to be running when it was crashed like i told you when i met with you...i never took the plugs out or anything and it had all the accessories on it,so i could'nt look inside the motor itself...but i do understand how fustrated you are and i'm sorry you're having problems....but on a side note from listening to your video and paying close attention to some details in your pm i have established that your check engine light is on and your truck is ildeing to low which would count for low oil preasure(it looks like its idleing at 500 and surging if my eyes and ears are correct)which would cause the low oil preasure and cutting off especially when you turn into places at idle...and on another side note your exhaust is making alot of the noises i was listening to in the video(but i'm listening to the video and not standing beside your truck also)so you might want to have some one else listen to it because your truck will sound different to you since you never ran it with headers before...and i would be curious to know how long you ran it also without oil preasure since you installed the o-ring wrong also....but in my opinion you need to check what is making the truck idle low and then let someone listen to it that has a un-biased opinion on the nosies its making and go from there because you might or might not be jumping the gun alittle(like i said before things are going to act and sound different when its idleing low and has a brand new exhaust on it)...i'm not saying thats what the problem is but thats what i would do from watching and listening to the video...thanks billy

ShawnBoyMoody 10-07-2011 09:26 PM
shawnboys fault. shawnboy did it. kill shawnboy.

03SVTCOBRA 10-07-2011 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ShawnBoyMoody (Post 135396)
shawnboys fault. shawnboy did it. kill shawnboy.
Ive found this is the easiest/best solution to every situation.

PapaBear 10-07-2011 11:19 PM
Wow that sucks man. Sorry to hear it.

Well if you have to rebuild it, what you gonna do? Forged 408? Stock rebuild?

MonteC 10-07-2011 11:23 PM
Stick the 5.3 back in. Pay shawn boy some monies and keep the 6.0 for a rebuild later down the road. Or put the 5.3 back in and give the 6.0 to shawnboy plus a little scratch.

03SVTCOBRA 10-07-2011 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MonteC (Post 135430)
Stick the 5.3 back in. Pay shawn boy some monies and keep the 6.0 for a rebuild later down the road. Or put the 5.3 back in and give the 6.0 to shawnboy plus a little Rub and Tug.
Fixed

ElecTech 10-07-2011 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MonteC (Post 135430)
Stick the 5.3 back in. Pay shawn boy some monies and keep the 6.0 for a rebuild later down the road. Or put the 5.3 back in and give the 6.0 to shawnboy plus a little scratch.
Troof.

yota 10-07-2011 11:46 PM
i promised shawn a motor, i at least owe him that... even if it is a worthless 200k mile motor :hysterical:

jaime, i may be in touch with you guys again on monday for a speedy turn around motor swap... just a heads up... waiting on the bank to get back with me :) sending you a pm now...

yota 10-07-2011 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PapaBear (Post 135426)
Wow that sucks man. Sorry to hear it.

Well if you have to rebuild it, what you gonna do? Forged 408? Stock rebuild?
i will eventually go to a 408 or similar... in all honesty, probably boosted too... that being said, uncle sam is going to have to sling a few more pay checks and bonuses my way first ;) give me a year and i will be gapping more than half of this board with a 4800+ pound pig :poke:

chrisheltra 10-07-2011 11:58 PM
I cand believe that Tahoe and tbss weight less than my truck. I'm baffled.

yota 10-08-2011 12:04 AM
lightnings are super slow pigs... you ain't know, homie? :poke:

Sean 10-08-2011 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisheltra (Post 135436)
I cand believe that Tahoe and tbss weight less than my truck. I'm baffled.
So that makes me the heavy weight?

k5hart 10-08-2011 08:07 AM
Your problems suck. I hate it when sellers try to blame everything on you and act like you don't know what your doing! I would write him back and say he's assuming an awful lot including the condition of the motor since he obviously didn't check anything before selling it as a good running motor. Good luck with it.

ShawnBoyMoody 10-08-2011 08:10 AM
As stated before, I will gift you the 5.3 because I think you are a good guy who got a shitty deal.

PapaBear 10-08-2011 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ShawnBoyMoody (Post 135446)
As stated before, I will gift you the 5.3 because I think you are a good guy who got a shitty deal.
:yourock:

Yota, good luck with all of this man. Just promise me a run before you go boosted.

chrisheltra 10-08-2011 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by yota (Post 135437)
lightnings are super slow pigs... you ain't know, homie? :poke:
Oh I know..... I havent seen a fast one yet.

yota 10-11-2011 09:10 PM
dropped the truck off at crews today for a new 5.3... comes with a 3 year/100k mile warranty... not my first choice but ya gotta do what ya gotta do and this gets me into a brand new motor rather than one with 200k on it...

bwelch 10-11-2011 10:57 PM
Damn! How much did that cost?

yota 10-11-2011 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bwelch (Post 136169)
Damn! How much did that cost?
enough... :oops:

and for anyone else wondering, i am taking the 6.0 back to the guy i bought it from and getting my money back unless someone wants it for $700... honestly though, from the noises its making and what ive found in the oil, it would probably only be good for mock up purposes... sounds like metal on metal from somewhere deep inside the block, probably around the cam bearings and its anybody's guess as to whether or not it would be machinable... that, and the heads would need to be re-done...

bwelch 10-11-2011 11:06 PM
Damn I should have sold you my built for boost 370 so I could build a nitrous motor instead.

yota 10-11-2011 11:15 PM
we could have talked :) its done and over with now though... the new engine is paid for and will hopefully be on the road again by friday or worst case, monday... im just glad to know that it all got worked out in the end, i met some pretty damn cool people in the process, learned a lesson, and will now have a warranty, if only on the engine... i'll do something fun down the road, but for now i have to do this to fulfill my duties and get where i need to be...

on another note, at least i got my headers and stall in :)

k5hart 10-12-2011 07:41 AM
Man this went in a different direction! Glad your getting it worked out. Has the guy agreed to take the engine back or are going to persuade him a little in person?:fight:

yota 10-12-2011 10:45 AM
thanks... and yeah, the guy agreed to take the engine back

yota 10-14-2011 07:30 PM
so crews got the truck on tuesday and didnt even touch it to begin teardown until thursday afternoon when the new engine arrived... wtf were they thinking? i was more than clear that i needed my fucking truck TODAY... now they act like they are doing me a favor because the tech is coming in at 12:00 tomorrow on his off day to "try to finish wrapping it up"... bullshit... my last update was at 5:10 this afternoon and he had just gotten the new long block in the engine bay and hadnt even touched the accessories, intake, headers, or motor mounts yet before he decided he was done for the day and left... fucking ridiculous if you ask me... i know when i was a tech at the dealers, i never left my customers hanging like that...

and, on top of all this, they are trying to tack on a core charge after having already given me a quote for the whole job including parts and labor... something tells me there is going to be a slight issue whenever i go to pick this thing up...

Carlrx7 10-14-2011 08:14 PM
Is the core fee more than 700 bucks? If so just let them keep that shit brick.

I was at crews today warranty work on the tbss

New window regulator, new ac head unit and door hinge. In and out in an hour

They are alot better under the new owner

-Carl

1998ta__1991rs 10-14-2011 08:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yota (Post 136936)
so crews got the truck on tuesday and didnt even touch it to begin teardown until thursday afternoon when the new engine arrived... wtf were they thinking? i was more than clear that i needed my fucking truck TODAY... now they act like they are doing me a favor because the tech is coming in at 12:00 tomorrow on his off day to "try to finish wrapping it up"... bullshit... my last update was at 5:10 this afternoon and he had just gotten the new long block in the engine bay and hadnt even touched the accessories, intake, headers, or motor mounts yet before he decided he was done for the day and left... fucking ridiculous if you ask me... i know when i was a tech at the dealers, i never left my customers hanging like that...

and, on top of all this, they are trying to tack on a core charge after having already given me a quote for the whole job including parts and labor... something tells me there is going to be a slight issue whenever i go to pick this thing up...
i know we never start taking motors out untill the new one is in the bay, no one wants to tie up their rack when theres a possibility the new motor may be wrong. then you would be sitting around another day waiting on another motor and not making any money.

if its a new motor there shouldnt be a core, if its a reman there will be one

LXtasy 10-14-2011 09:11 PM
they didnt assemble the motor with accessories and intake and all on it before they dropped it in ? thats odd

yota 10-14-2011 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 1998ta__1991rs (Post 136941)
i know we never start taking motors out untill the new one is in the bay, no one wants to tie up their rack when theres a possibility the new motor may be wrong. then you would be sitting around another day waiting on another motor and not making any money.

if its a new motor there shouldnt be a core, if its a reman there will be one
thats understandable under most circumstances, and i know its the "status quo" if you will, but not when the customer needs it asap... at least not when ive done them before... if the motor isnt right, you roll that bish outside and pull in the next one

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Originally Posted by LXtasy (Post 136947)
they didnt assemble the motor with accessories and intake and all on it before they dropped it in ? thats odd
nope... of course neither did we when we put the 6.0 in there... the top bellhousing bolt is almost impossible to get to on the suv's with the intake on though, and it's tight clearing the cowl with it on too... that being said, once the bellhousing bolts and torque converter were buttoned up, i dont remember it taking very long at all to slap the intake and accessories back on it either... it's really, really simple IMO and i had never touched an LS motor before the original swap

PapaBear 10-14-2011 10:08 PM
When they did my warranty engine, they took longer than I expected, but I was okay with it.

In your case, if a deadline was near, you would hope that the tech would stay and get it done, but really out of your control right? Best you can do is hope.

And I agree, their service is 1,237,954% better than Rick Hendrick, they will get my business again.

Have you guys heard if you buy a used car from them they will warranty engine/trans FOR LIFE!! Surely all service must be performed at their intervals, but not a bad deal.


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