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NesbittRacing1 06-01-2012 06:14 PM

ls question
 
so all this talk lately about ls motors has got me wondering, what would it take to get a ls motor in a fox in the 5teen 5.20 range

CHEVYMAN434 06-01-2012 06:18 PM

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I would think around 1100-1200 rwhp....

spdracr0 06-01-2012 06:19 PM

depends on the LS motor..

spdracr0 06-01-2012 06:24 PM

A well built 550hp ls plus 300-400 hp nitrous should do it in a typical race fox body @ approx 2700lbs I think. I have been 5.50s with a raggedy windsor and a plate that would just barely make 700 on Tutens dyno

ShawnBoyMoody 06-01-2012 06:25 PM

Ask Bad Bob!

LXtasy 06-01-2012 07:07 PM

I assume this is for ultimate street. 6.0 h/c/i 300 shot nitrous, Nitrous converter and your 275/60/15. You might need cubic inches, but not much.

1998ta__1991rs 06-01-2012 07:07 PM

turbo or nitrous?? what's the weight? It would be easier with a turbo. a higher compression 370-408 would do it on a 88mm or so turbo with a 245cc or larger head, thats considering the block has larger diameter head studs, etc..., the stock 4 head bolt blocks can handle 1200 or so rwhp with a spot on tune

a nitrous motor would need to be larger, more in the 420-460" range, on a 6 head bolt block (LSX block, ERL Superdeck, or a RHS Block), and a good bit of compression, with not too much gas on top should get you there.

most of the nitrous guys in the 4's are running canted valve mozez headed 6 bolt blocks with a good bit of spray or a 88-9x turbo.

1998ta__1991rs 06-01-2012 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LXtasy (Post 170382)
I assume this is for ultimate street. 6.0 h/c/i 300 shot nitrous, Nitrous converter and your 275/60/15. You might need cubic inches, but not much.

a head cam intake 6.0 with a 300 isnt going to run 5.teens in ultimate street trim, maybe at 2000lbs

ShawnBoyMoody 06-01-2012 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 1998ta__1991rs (Post 170385)
a head cam intake 6.0 with a 300 isnt going to run 5.teens in ultimate street trim, maybe at 2000lbs

Back halfed miata?

LXtasy 06-01-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1998ta__1991rs (Post 170385)
a head cam intake 6.0 with a 300 isnt going to run 5.teens in ultimate street trim, maybe at 2000lbs

There is other variables as well for that class. I know what i plan on running in that class but wont be teens. I know roughly hp. I bet you can go 5.teens to 5.2x with 402 ci

cmd 06-01-2012 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ShawnBoyMoody (Post 170387)
Back halfed miata?

HYHD!!!!

Matts94Z28 06-01-2012 07:58 PM

Get an lt1...

BAD BOB 06-01-2012 08:05 PM

i would personally say i dont think its worth all the work to switch. sbf has proved to work pretty well with the right stuff like any combo. you could have to switch bell housings if you have a glide, new motor plate and stuff. thats just what i think. oh and ls stuff isnt the cheapest stuff when you get away from stock stuff!

bwelch 06-01-2012 08:39 PM

408 ported l92 with 400-500hp worth of nitrous.

schardbody 06-01-2012 10:32 PM

ton o spray

ShawnBoyMoody 06-01-2012 10:44 PM

Im with Robert on this, Josh your shit is riding out I'd stay Ford!

BigdaddyDupree 06-01-2012 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwelch (Post 170415)
408 ported l92 with 400-500hp worth of nitrous.

Sounds familiar. I'd like to go 5.90s one day.

RobertHolton1 06-01-2012 11:21 PM

Me to tyler

Matts94Z28 06-02-2012 03:36 PM

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namewastaken_0_0 06-02-2012 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matts94Z28 (Post 170497)
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Anyone else think about putting a steak on the headers when you see engine dyno videos?

NesbittRacing1 06-03-2012 12:07 PM

thanks for the help, yeah it would have to be in ultimate street trim.but I was weighing my options seeing which would be the better way to go with it, looking like i'm staying sbf

bwelch 06-03-2012 12:44 PM

Single Black Females?

Matts94Z28 06-03-2012 03:55 PM

This just in: Averagejoe is doing a 300 hit and a TH350. He said he's going 5.5's.

AverageJoe 06-03-2012 03:58 PM

Maybe if I can get a sponsor

ShawnBoyMoody 06-03-2012 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AverageJoe (Post 170650)
Maybe if I can get a sponsor

Harry?

TurboWS6 06-03-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwelch (Post 170415)
408 ported l92 with 400-500hp worth of nitrous.

I don't think L92 heads will take that much of a hit. Deck is too thin, great N/A head though.

bwelch 06-03-2012 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboWS6 (Post 170653)
I don't think L92 heads will take that much of a hit. Deck is too thin, great N/A head though.

find somebody who has actually had a problem with them then I will believe that rumor...I know I cant.

TurboWS6 06-03-2012 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwelch (Post 170701)
find somebody who has actually had a problem with them then I will believe that rumor...I know I cant.

Ive seen it first hand out of Steen Racing on two separate occasions when I worked with them.

I will play. Below are a couple pics of a L92 head that was under a S480 turbo @ 12 psi, car was making 650ish belonged to a buddy of mine in Va. This is the direct result of pushing L92's to far with a power adder. When you push these heads past the 600 RWHP range they don't handle it well or for long there are always exceptions to the rule but not many, This motor also had 1/2" studs and LS9 head gaskets. FYI.

Doesn't matter if you go turbo or nitrous the end result is more cylinder pressure and this will eventually be the result.


[IMG]http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/...6/L92Head1.jpg[/IMG]
http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/...6/L92head2.jpg

Harry 06-03-2012 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShawnBoyMoody (Post 170651)
Harry?

Good One.:bigthumb:


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