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DolSVT00 01-21-2009 10:58 PM

Guaging intrest "Dyno Day"
 
I talked to some of the guys at Show Zone about the posibility of a "dyno day" a wile back, they told me they could do it on a weekend and could handle quite a few cars.

Again, pricing would depend on how many showed, and if you want A/F included. I can get a date/price for us If I get a general idea of how many would like to do it.

Interested?

Dyno: Mustangdyne (Ya it will make you cry if you think you make big HP)
Type: AWD/2WD

1. Dolsvt00 (02 Mustang)
2. Chrisheltra
3. 08Racecraft
4. Clubracergt1
5. Slowgreen73
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?
9. ?
10. ?
11. ?
12. ?

I also dont care what dyno we do this on. I'd just like to have a GTG.

soccerspike15 01-21-2009 11:00 PM

why not a dyno day at ls1powertuning, even though yall own fords just throwing that out there

DolSVT00 01-21-2009 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soccerspike15 (Post 32192)
why not a dyno day at ls1powertuning, even though yall own fords just throwing that out there

I wouldn't mind that ither, but I may have some AWD guys :cry:

I would have took my Ford to the last one but I was busy that day (breaking in a new motor)

LXtasy 01-21-2009 11:09 PM

A price range would better determine the amount of people that show up.

I am interested in a dyno. But pricing determines alot more than just a date.

DolSVT00 01-21-2009 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LXtasy (Post 32196)
A price range would better determine the amount of people that show up.

I am interested in a dyno. But pricing determines alot more than just a date.

last time it was 50-75$ w/10$ A/F

chrisheltra 01-22-2009 12:14 AM

Just let me know when. Is the shop heated?

This cold+high load pulls=boom!

08 Racecraft 01-22-2009 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dolsvt00 (Post 32197)
last time it was 50-75$ w/10$ a/f

ibin bitch obama rules

clubracergt1 01-22-2009 07:33 AM

Might be nice to baseline the 'stang.

soccerspike15 01-22-2009 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by clubracergt1 (Post 32208)
Might be nice to baseline the 'stang.

i got money on 234rwhp

slowgreen99 01-22-2009 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soccerspike15 (Post 32220)
i got money on 234rwhp

Highly doubtful to be that high on a mustang dyno. I got money on his being there and yours still broke.

SLOWGREEN73 01-22-2009 12:52 PM

I'm interested might be nice to see what kind of power my turtle makes.

clubracergt1 01-22-2009 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soccerspike15 (Post 32220)
i got money on 234rwhp


My money says about 210-220 hp on a Mustang Dyno

Illusions 01-22-2009 01:47 PM

Any prizes for lowest numbers? I might get that with either the F150 or the Daily Driver Blazer if its running by then. :(

Darryl Buckner 01-22-2009 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by soccerspike15 (Post 32220)
i got money on 234rwhp

I bet I can double the horsepower your camaro puts out on the dyno with the 4 door.. Oh and its a Ford..:bigthumb:

minytrker 01-22-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soccerspike15 (Post 32192)
why not a dyno day at ls1powertuning, even though yall own fords just throwing that out there

I will probably have a dyno day next month again.

chrisheltra 01-22-2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Illusions (Post 32226)
Any prizes for lowest numbers? I might get that with either the F150 or the Daily Driver Blazer if its running by then. :(

Not if I bring a riding lawn mower but then again I guess I dont have to there is a sticker on the motor saying what the HP is.:hysterical:

:cheers

clubracergt1 01-22-2009 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisheltra (Post 32240)
Not if I bring a riding lawn mower but then again I guess I dont have to there is a sticker on the motor saying what the HP is.:hysterical:

:cheers


Sooo...

If I get a sticker that says 500hp, I'll have 500hp? Holy shit! The ricers are on to something!

chrisheltra 01-22-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by clubracergt1 (Post 32244)
Sooo...

If I get a sticker that says 500hp, I'll have 500hp? Holy shit! The ricers are on to something!

:hysterical:

Exactly!!!

Matts94Z28 01-22-2009 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darryl Buckner (Post 32235)
I bet I can double the horsepower your camaro puts out on the dyno with the 4 door.. Oh and its a Ford..:bigthumb:

You do realize you are talking to the 18yr old LS1 know it all with the fastest red camaro with two torque thrust M's, two stock wheels, a few gauges that arn't hooked up, with longtubes on the east coast right?! :hysterical:

Hell Greg might actually come to the dyno day with the car, all I have to do is let him borrow some casters for the jackstands.

DolSVT00 01-22-2009 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clubracergt1 (Post 32244)
Sooo...

If I get a sticker that says 500hp, I'll have 500hp? Holy shit! The ricers are on to something!

That's funny.......... But I 'd Be willing to pay the 50$ dyno fee of the mo-fo who could make 600hp (corrected) on their Mustang dyno I'd also be willing to bet 50$ that 96% of the people on here can't even get close to 500hp (corrected) on their dyno..............

That AWD dyno is a heartbreaker.

soccerspike15 01-22-2009 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matts94Z28 (Post 32248)
You do realize you are talking to the 18yr old LS1 know it all with the fastest red camaro with two torque thrust M's, two stock wheels, a few gauges that arn't hooked up, with longtubes on the east coast right?! :hysterical:

Hell Greg might actually come to the dyno day with the car, all I have to do is let him borrow some casters for the jackstands.

do you have anything else to add, go ahead and talk you shit dont really bother me :bigthumb:

Pesce Nero 01-22-2009 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 32254)
That's funny.......... But I 'd Be willing to pay the 50$ dyno fee of the mo-fo who could make 600hp (corrected) on their Mustang dyno I'd also be willing to bet 50$ that 96% of the people on here can't even get close to 500hp (corrected) on their dyno..............

That AWD dyno is a heartbreaker.

i dont understand what your saying here? are you saying their mustang dyno is alot more stingy than LS1's is? a dyno is just a tuning tool regardless of the numbers it puts out

Pesce Nero 01-22-2009 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matts94Z28 (Post 32248)
You do realize you are talking to the 18yr old LS1 know it all with the fastest red camaro with two torque thrust M's, two stock wheels, a few gauges that arn't hooked up, with longtubes on the east coast right?! :hysterical:

Hell Greg might actually come to the dyno day with the car, all I have to do is let him borrow some casters for the jackstands.


isnt your car on jackstands too? and whats wrong with different wheels:poke:

Matts94Z28 01-22-2009 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soccerspike15 (Post 32258)
do you have anything else to add, go ahead and talk you shit dont really bother me :bigthumb:

:offtopic:

DolSVT00 01-22-2009 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIXPACKGUT (Post 32262)
i dont understand what your saying here? are you saying their mustang dyno is alot more stingy than LS1's is? a dyno is just a tuning tool regardless of the numbers it puts out

Basiclly, Yes I garuntee its more stingy.

Dynojet
The Dynojet chassis dyno is referred to as an inertia-type dynamometer, because large drums provide an inertial load to the drivetrain instead of a friction brake.


Mustang
The Mustang chassis dyno uses an Inertia load as well as an eddycurrent brake load to simulate the "actual" load (combined aerodynamic plus rolling frictional load) that the vehicle would experience when in motion. The internals of the Mustang dyno are composed of an eddy current brake to provide a variable load and an inertial disc to provide a fixed load.

Bottom line, the more power you make, its gonna hurt you all the more. And an AWD mustang is even worse.

Their both just Printer B.S Generators.

Pesce Nero 01-22-2009 11:31 PM

or use this dyno

http://www.wallaceracing.com/hpcalculatoreigth.php

DolSVT00 01-22-2009 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIXPACKGUT (Post 32267)

Probably just as accurate for real world comparison.

Pesce Nero 01-22-2009 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 32266)
Basiclly, Yes I garuntee its more stingy.

Dynojet
The Dynojet chassis dyno is referred to as an inertia-type dynamometer, because large drums provide an inertial load to the drivetrain instead of a friction brake.


Mustang
The Mustang chassis dyno uses an Inertia load as well as an eddycurrent brake load to simulate the "actual" load (combined aerodynamic plus rolling frictional load) that the vehicle would experience when in motion. The internals of the Mustang dyno are composed of an eddy current brake to provide a variable load and an inertial disc to provide a fixed load.

Bottom line, the more power you make, its gonna hurt you all the more. And an AWD mustang is even worse.

Their both just Printer B.S Generators.

honestly, if the mustang Dyno told me i had less then 500 hp at the wheels i wouldnt even consider it accurate at all. i know my engine makes around 700, that is basically the limits of a stock block. at the dyno day at ls1, my car made 540 and Lorenz didnt even want to do another pull because it was on the very lean side so his sounds pretty accurate to me but i dont know either

DolSVT00 01-22-2009 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIXPACKGUT (Post 32270)
hoestly, if the mustang Dyno told me i had less then 500 hp at the wheels i wouldnt even consider it accurate at all. i know my engine makes around 700, that is basically the limits of a stock block. at the dyno day at ls1, my car made 540 and Lorenz didnt even want to do another pull because it was on the very lean side so his sounds pretty accurate to me but i dont know either

Nither are accurate to real world, you can find a 1000hp dyno Supra, drag it's butt to the track and barely run 8.0's in the 1/8th.

If you wanna tout dyno numbers and swear you ride has 500 hp, stick to the dynojet. If you want to Load the engine up and do some driving load baised a/f or tuning get on a Mustang dyno.

If you made 540 on a Dynojet, I will pay for your dyno session if you can break 460 on that AWD mustang dyno.

Pesce Nero 01-22-2009 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 32271)
Nither are accurate to real world, you can find a 1000hp dyno Supra, drag it's butt to the track and barely run 8.0's in the 1/8th.

If you wanna tout dyno numbers and swear you ride has 500 hp, stick to the dynojet. If you want to Load the engine up and do some driving load baised a/f or tuning get on a Mustang dyno.

If you made 540 on a Dynojet, I will pay for your dyno session if you can break 460 on that AWD mustang dyno.


i dont want my feelings hurt but i may take you up on it. we'll see when the time comes

DolSVT00 01-23-2009 12:08 AM

N/P but if you go into it expecting to see numbers, you will be (as the list is already long and distinguished) dissapointed. I ran mine on that mustang dyno twice (it's the only dyno I've ever been on stock and built) I just did it to see the gains stock vs built and I've never been impressed with the numbers, but.......... if you want we can add a twist to that bet......... I'll pay for your dyno on the mustang if you make over 460 (corrected), you reimburse me if I make over 540 (corrected) on that dynojet.

Pesce Nero 01-23-2009 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 32277)
N/P but if you go into it expecting to see numbers, you will be (as the list is already long and distinguished) dissapointed. I ran mine on that mustang dyno twice (it's the only dyno I've ever been on stock and built) I just did it to see the gains stock vs built and I've never been impressed with the numbers, but.......... if you want we can add a twist to that bet......... I'll pay for your dyno on the mustang if you make over 460 (corrected), you reimburse me if I make over 540 (corrected) on that dynojet.


ok, but i'm gonna cheat. need a few more pices that i cant afford right now

DolSVT00 01-23-2009 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIXPACKGUT (Post 32279)
ok, but i'm gonna cheat. need a few more pices that i cant afford right now

hey hey hey now, whats the fun in cheating. I can cheat too, I know the guy that makes the corrections on that dyno.........

For a few $ I'd make you make 200 hp. lol

BIG B 01-23-2009 12:16 AM

Well i got all the horsepower stickers you need!!! nos sticker 25 hp moroso (old skool) 10hp and the 5 sticker pack and get 65hp to the wheels!!! with all the stickers my hemi should break 500hp! dammmmmmmmmmm!!!!!

Pesce Nero 01-23-2009 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 32280)
hey hey hey now, whats the fun in cheating. I can cheat too, I know the guy that makes the corrections on that dyno.........

For a few $ I'd make you make 200 hp. lol

when is this anyway? my car wont be rolling again for a month or so. i hope

DolSVT00 01-23-2009 12:21 AM

Hopefully within a month or so, I'd like to have at least 10 to get the price "right"

slowgreen99 01-23-2009 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG B (Post 32281)
Well i got all the horsepower stickers you need!!! nos sticker 25 hp moroso (old skool) 10hp and the 5 sticker pack and get 65hp to the wheels!!! with all the stickers my hemi should break 500hp! dammmmmmmmmmm!!!!!

japanese doubles it tho

BIG B 01-23-2009 12:27 AM

I got all the JDM stickers :bigthumb:

clubracergt1 01-23-2009 08:10 AM

I might need to get some of those, B. There's a little black S-series I need to show up. (At least before it sees "more power")

minytrker 01-23-2009 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 32254)
That's funny.......... But I 'd Be willing to pay the 50$ dyno fee of the mo-fo who could make 600hp (corrected) on their Mustang dyno I'd also be willing to bet 50$ that 96% of the people on here can't even get close to 500hp (corrected) on their dyno..............

That AWD dyno is a heartbreaker.

I think they have changed the correction factor on there dyno so it reads like a dyno jet. I had a truck here last week that dyno'ed at showzone and then came to me and my dynojet was within 2 or 3 hp of theres.


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