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Harry 09-21-2009 03:22 PM

How to Negotiate a Race
 
You know guys, I don't know where you guys learned to negotiate a race. If someone is offering to race you for lengths, leave or whatever, You can always negotiate for something you feel more comfortable with. Intimidation and crap talking doesn't seem to be getting anybody any where!!!

Robert Holton 09-21-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry (Post 48940)
You know guys, I don't know where you guys learned to negotiate a race. If someone is offering to race you for lengths, leave or whatever, You can always negotiate for something you feel more comfortable with. Intimidation and crap talking doesn't seem to be getting anybody any where!!!

thats one thing i agree with u on harry.

WWhittle 09-21-2009 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry (Post 48940)
You know guys, I don't know where you guys learned to negotiate a race. If someone is offering to race you for lengths, leave or whatever, You can always negotiate for something you feel more comfortable with. Intimidation and crap talking doesn't seem to be getting anybody any where!!!



Harry, you are going to need to get the approval of the entire board before you talk about racing anymore. Go sit in time out.

Robert Holton 09-21-2009 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Wes Whittle (Post 48948)
Harry, you are going to need to get the approval of the entire board before you talk about racing anymore. Go sit in time out.

also agree

WWhittle 09-21-2009 04:52 PM

The problem is that most are caught up in "playing the role" and forget that at the end of the day you are suppose to race.....

Harry 09-21-2009 05:31 PM

Sorry guys. Don't know what I was thinking.

LXtasy 09-21-2009 07:16 PM

so for those of us who have been busy to get to a track lately and haven't been in almost 2 months can't talk about racing?

s14.5gonewide 09-21-2009 07:36 PM

from experience.. most of the time people are to worried about their ego than tey are about enjoying their car.

it seems even if it was fair/close race from a dig or roll if its a car or more that person got drug or got pulled like he was standing still.which in most cases is not the case..

i dont see people on this board really getting to hurt over it you all seem like you know each other and seem to know where each other stands as far as times/potential..
and most of thet ime aquantiances/friends like to talk crap to just have fun and poke fun.

from my experiancei f any real money is involved people talk it up so much and the race usually does not go as planned.. if its a roll from 20-120 it ends up being a 40-120 race.. they play cat and mouse till the one who called the other out gets the race he wanted.( sen this all to much) or the guy knows he is over powered or outmatch and askes for 2/3 lenghths.. the other car is usually within 1-1.5 cars bye the time the race is on.. unless its from a dig.. than the guy in the rear is usually so anxios he is either on the stall or something freakish happned with line lock and ends up rolling out first closing the gap before the race.

on most import/domestic races the v8 or domestic usually jumps out and shuts it down when they have 1 car or 2 out on the import.. when in reality a turbo import its 99 percent of the time a top end/mid rage car.. so when the v8 shuts it down 1 gear into it the import is just getting its steam(and usually comming on strong).. even on break boosted races the car is still making power on the top of the rpm range.. thats why most imports what a race that is from 20/40- 120/140 or a markeked spot.. most import cars that are fast really do enjoy the domestic market and the guys who race.. i will admit sitting next to a bbc/ford camming or looking at a tunnel ram or a big body muscle car rolling s just a menacing and heart throbbing moment..its adrenaline filled to say the least.

sorry 4 the rant.

WWhittle 09-21-2009 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LXtasy (Post 49002)
so for those of us who have been busy to get to a track lately and haven't been in almost 2 months can't talk about racing?


Not sure, i'm still learning the rules around here.

Mike 09-21-2009 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Wes Whittle (Post 49012)
Not sure, i'm still learning the rules around here.

I purposely designed the rules so they couldn't be learned.

Some how a few people have picked up on rule #1 though.

1. Rules are subject to change.

:joke:

Pesce Nero 09-21-2009 08:09 PM

things are so different now. when i was in my teens and early 20s, i use to street race almost every night. i had 2 cars, my 70 road runner and my 76 newport. we raced in an industrial park and everyone just showed up there every night of the week in the summers. if you wanted to race, you just showed up and you may be racing all night long.

cars are much faster now though. there were no stroker kits or aluminum heads back then

also, i had more fun in my 4 door newport racing than i ever did in my road runner. the newport could take down late 80s 5.0 mustangs and monte carlo ss cars. it really pissed people off

Harry 09-21-2009 08:55 PM

Things definitely are different now a days. We used to cruise every fri. sat. and race up and down rivers til 2 to 3 in the morning. That was also when the Navy was still around and things were more interesting.

WWhittle 09-21-2009 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry (Post 49023)
Things definitely are different now a days. We used to cruise every fri. sat. and race up and down rivers til 2 to 3 in the morning. That was also when the Navy was still around and things were more interesting.


Couldn't get away with that anymore. I remember doing that on Wade Hampton Blvd. in Greenville when i was in high school.

DolSVT00 09-21-2009 09:44 PM

It can still be done around here, just have to keep the ricer's away so they dont screw it up trying to race to 130 mph in a honda that takes 10 miles to get there.

There's spots around here..........

Harry 09-21-2009 09:56 PM

Ya. I know. But, things are different for me and alot of us now a days. I have alot more to loose doing things like that now. Never the less it was alot of fun.

Matts94Z28 09-21-2009 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 49037)
It can still be done around here, just have to keep the ricer's away so they dont screw it up trying to race to 130 mph in a honda that takes 10 miles to get there.

There's spots around here..........

x2

bwelch 09-22-2009 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00 (Post 49037)
It can still be done around here, just have to keep the ricer's away so they dont screw it up trying to race to 130 mph in a honda that takes 10 miles to get there.

There's spots around here..........

x3

s14.5gonewide 09-22-2009 01:40 AM

out of all that i posted all i get is a response about imports..:(

BIG B 09-22-2009 01:44 AM

they are talkin bout the big winged stock hondas, not the ones that will hurt there prides..

Harry 09-22-2009 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s14.5gonewide (Post 49011)
from experience.. most of the time people are to worried about their ego than tey are about enjoying their car.

it seems even if it was fair/close race from a dig or roll if its a car or more that person got drug or got pulled like he was standing still.which in most cases is not the case..

i dont see people on this board really getting to hurt over it you all seem like you know each other and seem to know where each other stands as far as times/potential..
and most of thet ime aquantiances/friends like to talk crap to just have fun and poke fun.

from my experiancei f any real money is involved people talk it up so much and the race usually does not go as planned.. if its a roll from 20-120 it ends up being a 40-120 race.. they play cat and mouse till the one who called the other out gets the race he wanted.( sen this all to much) or the guy knows he is over powered or outmatch and askes for 2/3 lenghths.. the other car is usually within 1-1.5 cars bye the time the race is on.. unless its from a dig.. than the guy in the rear is usually so anxios he is either on the stall or something freakish happned with line lock and ends up rolling out first closing the gap before the race.

on most import/domestic races the v8 or domestic usually jumps out and shuts it down when they have 1 car or 2 out on the import.. when in reality a turbo import its 99 percent of the time a top end/mid rage car.. so when the v8 shuts it down 1 gear into it the import is just getting its steam(and usually comming on strong).. even on break boosted races the car is still making power on the top of the rpm range.. thats why most imports what a race that is from 20/40- 120/140 or a markeked spot.. most import cars that are fast really do enjoy the domestic market and the guys who race.. i will admit sitting next to a bbc/ford camming or looking at a tunnel ram or a big body muscle car rolling s just a menacing and heart throbbing moment..its adrenaline filled to say the least.

sorry 4 the rant.

I am not friends with everyone on here. I know alot of the people. I think this goes for alot of the people on here. Therefore things can get a little out of hand at times.

Robert Holton 09-22-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry (Post 49059)
I am not friends with everyone on here. I know alot of the people. I think this goes for alot of the people on here. Therefore things can get a little out of hand at times.

ill be your friend man!

Harry 09-22-2009 08:07 PM

Hey thanks man.

s14.5gonewide 09-22-2009 08:14 PM

i m anyones friend who can deal with crazy mike lol

s14.5gonewide 09-24-2009 07:31 PM

now this is how u negotiate.. lol:) i miss being up their:( this is how all the big meets turn out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvJxp2yN--Q

and this is how things get at the track.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SjVM...eature=channel

Harry 09-24-2009 08:19 PM

That's why I don't try to grudge race at the track. People start talking crap and want to fight. Bunch of Jackasses

EDMUND FLASH 09-28-2009 11:07 PM

BACK IN THE DAY''
or the late 70's we use to cruse up and down main street in lancaster sc. hooked up with somebody and meet on hwy,903 at a place called the picnic tables and have us a race'' then they added more cars and men on the police dept, and all the fun stopped''

jesse w 09-29-2009 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Wes Whittle (Post 49034)
Couldn't get away with that anymore. I remember doing that on Wade Hampton Blvd. in Greenville when i was in high school.

+1

wade w 09-29-2009 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s14.5gonewide (Post 49360)
now this is how u negotiate.. lol:) i miss being up their:( this is how all the big meets turn out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvJxp2yN--Q

and this is how things get at the track.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SjVM...eature=channel

Now were was that at so I know were not to go. That was just stupid.

s14.5gonewide 09-29-2009 07:08 PM

lol englistown... biggest raceway in the usa..

nyce1s only holds event at english/raceway park or atco..
big money big pwoer cars.. allot of import/domestic stuff on the street. since the only track is englisgtown and island most of the big dollar race stuff is left to the street.. they will litterly lock down a 3/4 lane highway block traffic to run.

wade w 09-29-2009 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by s14.5gonewide (Post 49817)
lol englistown... biggest raceway in the usa..

It might be the biggest, but if thats the norm. I'll pass. You can see the same crap when ever you want at Jackson or Dorchester. Its funny to watch, but if your wanting to make a pass and there sitting there in the staging lanes in the way running there mouth. That will just piss you off.

Illusions 09-29-2009 10:57 PM

I use to run englishtown all the time in the late 70's and 80's until I moved to Mississippi, It never use to be like that.

lock down lanes, they use to run on I-440 and I-287 all the time.

s14.5gonewide 09-29-2009 11:43 PM

it may be different with the older croud. but now with the internet and muscle/import stuff things have really changed.

allot of the big tuners in the import community are nyc locals or very close to it.like
turbotrix
mignightauto
dynoflash
and many many more
tuners like jr and kuna

are all local to that track.. they put up big money and talk big to get it to happen.

allot of the guys are really kew and usually got a heafty ammount tied up and are out to prove something everyone wants to be top dog...ive seen some serious money change hands in 1 run at the track and on he street up their and that was 5-6 years ago.. i can only imagine what is running around now.

i will admit allot of this goes on of the camera tho.. especially at the big dyno shoot outs.. thats where its layed on the line and people start the call out.. most of the big races are going on around jfk airport..

honestly im glad they still are hard at it it is people like them that push the envelope to further performance/technology... they got the bank/sponcers to roll like that im all 4 it.

s14.5gonewide 09-30-2009 04:33 PM

hear us kinda how it goes at dyno days.. i mean they even bet big money on dyno shootouts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucryy...e=channel_page

love the attitude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Q1a6LZSkU&NR=1

adamsgto2004 10-18-2009 11:46 PM

i don't ever have any big money to bet.


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