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Matts94Z28 02-02-2011 12:08 PM

Ford rear ends (8.8 or 9in)
 
What year(s) 8.8 or 9in should I be looking for, if it even matters? I am starting to look for junkers that I can chop up and rebuild for my car.

Joker 02-02-2011 12:17 PM

If you can fab up the 8.8 I would do that.
They plenty strong stock, plus they are lighter and has a less power loss of a 9inch.

Joker 02-02-2011 12:17 PM

Chevy fast, ford tough

98nbmz 02-02-2011 12:34 PM

73-86 ford 9in are like 65 inches long. Our fbody is like 64 3/4. Thats the closest. Others are like 61 1/4 which would work too, but would need diff rear rims due to back spacing

Matts94Z28 02-02-2011 12:36 PM

Thanks, thats what I was looking for. Anyone recall which 8.8's had the better axles in them?

98nbmz 02-02-2011 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Matts94Z28 (Post 101108)
Thanks, thats what I was looking for. Anyone recall which 8.8's had the better axles in them?

Probably the ford explorer 8.8 31 spline axles and trac-loks

Matts94Z28 02-02-2011 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 98nbmz (Post 101109)
Probably the ford explorer 8.8 31 spline axles and trac-loks

That's what I would like to find.

dkbmxer002 02-02-2011 12:44 PM

i'd run the narrower 9 inch and get some nice deep dish :D

98nbmz 02-02-2011 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Matts94Z28 (Post 101110)
That's what I would like to find.

9 inch is less work really. More weight though

Matts94Z28 02-02-2011 12:53 PM

I need to do something soon. I have been handicapped by this junk 10-bolt for some time now.

I really want to start exploring my options and get something started before this summer. I refused to pay 1500+ for something I can probably build cheaper. Plus, I will need it with all the changes that will be taking place.

98nbmz 02-02-2011 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Matts94Z28 (Post 101113)
I need to do something soon. I have been handicapped by this junk 10-bolt for some time now.

I really want to start exploring my options and get something started before this summer. I refused to pay 1500+ for something I can probably build cheaper. Plus, I will need it with all the changes that will be taking place.

By the time you get through I bet youll be like why the hell didnt just buy a moser, strange, mwc.. etc.

8.8 requires modification to the axle tubes. You cut the tubes off your 10 bolt and machine them to fit on the 8.8 then axles

9- requires just the cutting of all the mounting hardware on the 10 bolt. http://www.currieenterprises.com/ces...E.aspx?id=1595

Matts94Z28 02-02-2011 01:05 PM

Yeah, I have seen a ton of the 8.8's with the axles machined.

I think a 9in would be cheaper to build, plus I have the resources to have everything cut and welded up. The major expense would be the purchase of a center section and axles.

98nbmz 02-02-2011 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Matts94Z28 (Post 101115)
Yeah, I have seen a ton of the 8.8's with the axles machined.

I think a 9in would be cheaper to build, plus I have the resources to have everything cut and welded up. The major expense would be the purchase of a center section and axles.

I just want to find one with a 4.10 gear and just bolt the thing up. Truck prob has a locker already. Prob last a decent amount of time. Plus I know a guy with i think like a mid 80's 9 inch.

koolss 02-02-2011 09:20 PM

I would buy a 12bolt chevy tough with chevy stuff,works just fine for ashleys car

BAD BOB 02-02-2011 09:23 PM

you aint blown it apart so there should be no handicap yet

Matts94Z28 02-02-2011 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BAD BOB (Post 101192)
you aint blown it apart so there should be no handicap yet

Tore another pinion up though. :barf:

BigdaddyDupree 02-02-2011 09:54 PM

i have a couple 9 inch rear ends. one i wanna say is a little over 60 inches wms to wms

BigdaddyDupree 02-02-2011 09:57 PM

with the right ends your brakes will bolt right up. get axles and a center chunk. would be set really. and get the brackets welded on

1998ta__1991rs 02-02-2011 09:58 PM

may as well buy this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/9-inc...Q5fAccessories

with the 8.8, by the time you buy the rear end, buy the torque arm bracket, get the axles cut and resplined for your width, buy c clip eliminators, change the axle tube ends to fit your backing plates, and all the brackets, you could buy the 9" and have good axles. throw together a junkyard 3rd member (I think kevin has one) and you're set. with a 3rd member, gear, spool, pinion support, and yoke, you would have about $1400-$1500 in everything and it would hold whatever you throw at it

MonteC 02-02-2011 10:00 PM

spool?

BAD BOB 02-02-2011 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MonteC (Post 101205)
spool?

no turbo just nitrous

Joker 02-02-2011 10:06 PM

Dont forget, with the 9inch rear you have to change your drive shaft, so there is another $300 or so

MonteC 02-02-2011 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BAD BOB (Post 101206)
no turbo just nitrous

lol.

Spool seems too much for Matts daily driver. Unless he doesnt plan on daily driving...

gearmesh, inc. 02-02-2011 10:28 PM

Strength-wise, a GM car 12 bolt is on equal ground with a Ford 8.8. They both actually use the same rear pinion bearing. There is a difference between the car version 12 bolts and the truck version 12 bolts. The car 12 bolt is more desirable because it uses a larger diameter pinion shaft. The truck 12 bolts are not as strong as the car ones.

4x4 Ranger 8.8s had 31 spline axles, whereas the 2wd ones had 28 spline axles. 3.73 was a popular ratio among the 4x4 Rangers. Full size truck 8.8s were all 31 spline with bigger carrier bearings and larger carrier internals.

chrisheltra 02-02-2011 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gearmesh, inc. (Post 101210)
Strength-wise, a GM car 12 bolt is on equal ground with a Ford 8.8. They both actually use the same rear pinion bearing. There is a difference between the car version 12 bolts and the truck version 12 bolts. The car 12 bolt is more desirable because it uses a larger diameter pinion shaft. The truck 12 bolts are not as strong as the car ones.

4x4 Ranger 8.8s had 31 spline axles, whereas the 2wd ones had 28 spline axles. 3.73 was a popular ratio among the 4x4 Rangers. Full size truck 8.8s were all 31 spline with bigger carrier bearings and larger carrier internals.

http://static.flickr.com/21/26730200_24c8f596b1_m.jpg

LXtasy 02-02-2011 10:38 PM

Only the fx4 rangers came with 31 spline axles in 8.8. The 4.0 v6 rangers came with an 8.8 but only 38 spline.

Explorers all had 31 spline axles.

Rangers are 56-1/2 inches (1990-1992)wms 58-1/2 inches (1993-2009)wms
and the explorers are 59 1/2" wms .

I hate to disagree with you Gerald. But everywhere I have searched that is the info on the 8.8 in ranger/explorers I have found when doing the swap for the s-series

slowgreen99 02-02-2011 10:40 PM

Older rangers that are 4x4 had a 3.73 option too. Not just FX4. My Explorer axles had 3.55s. Its was a 91 Eddie Bauer 4x4.

FWIW

Matts94Z28 02-02-2011 11:09 PM

Thanks for all the info guys! Tyler... let me know how much you want for a housing.

Matts94Z28 02-03-2011 01:55 AM

Spraker racing enterprises out of Mooresville NC sent me this e-mail.

A HOUSING AND AXLE PACKAGE WITH MOSER 31 SPLINE AXLES BRAND NEW HOUSING AND LARGE WEB CENTER WITH DOM TUBES BILLETT HOUSING ENDS 5 ON 4 3/4 BC SET UP TO ACCEPT YOUR BRAKES WITH A TORQUE ARM MOUNT IS 995.00. WE ALSO CAN SUPPLY 3RD MEMBERS AND BRAKE PACKAGES. CALL US TOLL FREE AT 877-273-6369.

98Camarod 02-03-2011 07:42 AM

^^housing and axle packages for a moser were the same price from bob at epp when I bought mine. I ended up getting the moser 35 spline with nodular moser center section for 2100 shipped, but I have a spool.

My gripe with the spool is that there is no chance in driving in the rain over 20mph.

98Camarod 02-03-2011 04:09 PM

check this out:
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/parts-...rims-more.html

Harry 02-03-2011 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LXtasy (Post 101212)
Only the fx4 rangers came with 31 spline axles in 8.8. The 4.0 v6 rangers came with an 8.8 but only 38 spline.

Explorers all had 31 spline axles.

Rangers are 56-1/2 inches (1990-1992)wms 58-1/2 inches (1993-2009)wms
and the explorers are 59 1/2" wms .

I hate to disagree with you Gerald. But everywhere I have searched that is the info on the 8.8 in ranger/explorers I have found when doing the swap for the s-series

Wow 38 spline. That must have been the High Torque model Ranger.

Matts94Z28 02-03-2011 11:02 PM

I think I am just going to order a strange s60 through HHP. Now I just need march to get here so I can claim the other half of my bonus.

RobertHolton1 02-04-2011 12:29 AM

ten bolt would last, just need to get somebody to set them up that knows what they are doing, ive seen people go plenty fast with a ten bolt

Matts94Z28 02-04-2011 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertHolton1 (Post 101274)
ten bolt would last, just need to get somebody to set them up that knows what they are doing, ive seen people go plenty fast with a ten bolt

Ehhh... I wouldn't trust one. People break them in the street.

Carlrx7 02-04-2011 12:48 AM

i think you need a truck rear. lol

Matts94Z28 02-04-2011 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlrx7 (Post 101276)
i think you need a truck rear. lol

Can I get that from Summit or Jegs? I heard that's where all the bad ass truck guys shop!

94zson 02-04-2011 07:40 AM

sac up and go buy a housing and axles(9") and save your pennies by going and getting a junkyard pumpkin with the gears that you want and rebuild it.

at the most you will have to buy a rebuild kit and a locker!!! as long as you inspect it.

98nbmz 02-04-2011 11:13 AM

S60 is a heavy bitch!

98nbmz 02-04-2011 11:14 AM

This is what i'm saving up for.
http://www.midwestchassis.com/products.html


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