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1iron 04-26-2011 03:03 PM

Should I swich to a Glide?
 
SBF

White00gt 04-26-2011 03:07 PM

The C4 will cause you issues.

BAD BOB 04-26-2011 03:11 PM

sure

WWhittle 04-26-2011 03:14 PM

I can tell you that another car with a similar setup to yours went from a C4 to a glide and slowed down 2 tenths on motor and picked up 3 tenths on the gas.

OUTLAW 04-26-2011 03:37 PM

My car was faster with a glide

1998ta__1991rs 04-26-2011 03:44 PM

if you buy one go ahead and get me one too

bwelch 04-26-2011 03:56 PM

I would do it.

Carlrx7 04-26-2011 06:34 PM

race car

Harry 04-26-2011 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1iron (Post 111906)
The glide is a great street transmission.

I like mine. One shift and done.

cliff-1972 04-26-2011 08:20 PM

It only takes 16hp to operate a PG the least of all autos.Might not be as great of a street trans in my opinion,but awesome in a drag car:bigthumb:

1998ta__1991rs 04-26-2011 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliff-1972 (Post 111912)
It only takes 16hp to operate a PG the least of all autos.Might not be as great of a street trans in my opinion,but awesome in a drag car:bigthumb:

people drove around with them for 30 years and never complained

Bradleyrj 04-26-2011 09:32 PM

If my car ever makes it to track only duty, the first mod after weight loss of the street stuff will be a glide.

gearmesh, inc. 04-26-2011 09:53 PM

The glide is nice and light, but converter selection can be a pain. You either have to stall it for nitrous only, or for motor only to be optimum for either one.

With the 1.76 1st ratio of the glide, the converter stall becomes much more of the equation vs. the 2.48 1st ratio of a lot of the popular 3 speeds out there.

The 1.76 1st ratio of the glide will calm down your wheelies if you are lifting the front end excessively with your current 3 speed. If you run mostly motor only with no wheelie problems, then stick with your 3 speed. If you are mostly a heavy nitrous junkie, it is easier to make a glide work for you.

P.S. - If you put a glide behind a ford or mopar product, you may have to find some anti-rejection trans fluid to put in it so the rest of the car won't reject the foreign organ!:hysterical:

RobertHolton1 04-26-2011 09:57 PM

glide

Chillerman 04-26-2011 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1iron (Post 111870)
SBF, nitrous, radial car. Currently running a C4 and 4.10 rearend. Hoping to run some 5.5x's this season.

It's only money, just do it Paul.

Darryl's body man came over tonight, car is going to him in a couple of weeks for repair and a new paint job.

cliff-1972 04-26-2011 11:44 PM

Well they might have drove around for thirty years with them,but as soon as the T350's and T 400's came out a whole bunch of people were swapping these 3spd auto's in.This is fact not presumption.I like PG also.But a better choice for a street driven drag car is a 3 spd auto in my opinion.This topic is about ya or na on using a PG,so I'll stop now with the who's right or wrong crap:bigthumb:

White00gt 04-26-2011 11:51 PM

^^ hey hey lets compromise run a turbo glide.. oh wait.. thats a 400 with 2 gears.. ahh, nvm lol AOD with elec O/D FTW :poke:

drove a pg on the street for 6yrs.. loved it/ and hated it.. and you probably think I hated it because of the 1.80 first... Wrong I hated it cuz no O/D... Same reason I hate to drive my 400 on the street not because of the 1.48 second or 2.10 first... because of no O/D/.. lol ok I'll quit now hahaha


but wait theres gearvenders FTMFW

RobertHolton1 04-27-2011 08:18 AM

what kind of struts do you have on the front?

RobertHolton1 04-27-2011 09:29 AM

heres what you do... put in the glide, 430 gear, 5500 stall convert, turn it all on from home and leave at 4800 lock down the struts =5.50

RobertHolton1 04-27-2011 09:58 AM

No but if people are going in the 5.0s and faster on 275s, im sure you can go some 50s

radials are more scientific than slicks once you figure the science behind them and figure out the when and wheres behind them they will work better than a slick

RobertHolton1 04-27-2011 09:59 AM

i seen a car(wagon) satuday that wouldnt get down the track straight if you pulled it with a tractor on slicks, put the radials on and lifted the tires about 2 ft off the ground and rode on out straight as an arrow

RobertHolton1 04-27-2011 10:31 AM

i think you will definately go faster with the powerglide with your set up...

White00gt 04-27-2011 11:40 AM

you don't want to run 275's... send them to me... :p

White00gt 04-27-2011 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertHolton1 (Post 111976)
i seen a car(wagon) satuday that wouldnt get down the track straight if you pulled it with a tractor on slicks, put the radials on and lifted the tires about 2 ft off the ground and rode on out straight as an arrow

wonder what was up with that....10yr old slicks probably.

Mike 04-27-2011 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White00gt (Post 111986)
wonder what was up with that....10yr old slicks probably.

+1

It's amazing what happens to 1 year old tires stored in the wrong conditions. Baked in the Sun for a few weeks will ruin any tire.

OUTLAW 04-27-2011 12:27 PM

275 you can do it

ShawnBoyMoody 04-27-2011 02:03 PM

C4 = wheelstands and you know I love me some wheelstands lol. Seriously tho every ford guy ends up going to a glide eventually. The real question becomes why didn't you bring this up BEFORE I dropped 1350 bucks on my C4? I coulda just bought yours lol.

ShawnBoyMoody 04-27-2011 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1iron (Post 112001)
Sorry, my bad. It won't come out until it or something else breaks.

All good. I just got mine back from Gerald. I'm ready to feel um lol.

RobertHolton1 04-27-2011 02:24 PM

1350 $$$ HOLEY COW Could have fixed you a glide for that

ShawnBoyMoody 04-27-2011 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertHolton1 (Post 112003)
1350 $$$ HOLEY COW Could have fixed you a glide for that

Maybe. Good parts cost money tho and no sense in skimping out. I think Ill have a good strong tranny that I can grow with. One day I want a motor like Brandon's and you need good parts behind a powerhouse like that.:bigthumb:

ForceFed4g63 04-27-2011 03:57 PM

Damn I wouldn't think $1350 would be a lot for a tranny lol. Used to paying twice that for a decent built one.

MonteC 04-27-2011 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ForceFed4g63 (Post 112011)
Damn I wouldn't think $1350 would be a lot for a tranny lol. Used to paying twice that for a decent built one.


Its not, thats a good price for a PROPERLY built c4. :bigthumb:

MonteC 04-27-2011 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertHolton1 (Post 112003)
1350 $$$ HOLEY COW Could have fixed you a glide for that


Just wondering, who is building your transmissions? Your dad still doing it? I thought Ive heard David was messing with some of the older stuff.

WTFWSAT 04-27-2011 05:02 PM

Aod!!!

White00gt 04-27-2011 05:23 PM

^^ AOD is a good trans but the 2.40 vs the 2.46? of the C4 isn't really any change.

a 2.10, 400 or 1.80 glide are the tickets, but those gear sets along are around the price you see listed acouple post above.

WWhittle 04-27-2011 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1iron (Post 111980)
I know what has been done on 275's. I just don't know how to do it. I also don't have the power to go low 5's. The car has been 5.72 and it has a little more power this year.

You learned how to get your car to go down the track on radials with the 3 speed, the powerglide will be a piece of cake.

Darryl Buckner 04-27-2011 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by WTFWSAT (Post 112020)
Aod!!!

+1. Nothing like watching the guys sweat in True Street on the 30 mile trip at 70mph on the open road, and you can just flip a switch for overdrive. Nothing helps a heavy pig like mine more then the 2.84 first gear..

gearmesh, inc. 04-27-2011 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertHolton1 (Post 112003)
1350 $$$ HOLEY COW Could have fixed you a glide for that

Good internals for a C-4 can add up some dollars in a sneaky way.

$150 hardened input shaft
$250 6 pinion forward planet
$100 intermediate servo
$300 for manual valve body. Add another $200 or so extra for transbrake.
$90 reinforced forward drum
$60 Raybestos blue clutches for high/rev clutch
=
$950 in parts so far

Add to this a paper/rubber kit, bushings, filter, band, and any other small parts that go into a detail built C-4. Then a little machine work to get 5 clutches to fit in the high clutch without resorting to thin steels that any experienced high performance trans builder knows won't take the heat. Never resort to thin steels on a dynamicly engaged clutch in order to make room for an extra clutch plate/plates.

Oh yea, and don't forget a little labor for the builder.

Once you get your initial hard parts investment over with in a C-4, future freshening up builds will only cost a fraction of the original build, as the good hard parts will already be in there.

freddy231 04-28-2011 12:25 AM

you forgot the 300.00 for the machine shop to cut the planets and hubs so you can roller rize it and get rid of those thrust washers. been building trannys and racing fords for 30 plus years. i got a glide in my toy. but i got a c4 in my street 66 mustang. but it is a street car.

freddy231 04-28-2011 12:31 AM

robert if you really fix a glide for racing 1350 won,t cover everything. you got to have a ultra bell a transbrake input shaft hardened clutch hub double ring servo rabestos clutchs band and o yea you got to find a case to cut up too. and if you going fast you need an aftermarket set of planets


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