Trying to start the car
 

Ok trying to start the car tonight. Just wanna check some things with ya'll. First off my battery is reading low. Its old but i just wanted to give it a try lol. It reads around 11.7. I know on the starter theres a wire that goes to the ign switch. When i test that for voltage i really dont get anything. Is that b/c of the battery? Another thing when i try to jump the starter using a wire from the battery feed nothing happens. Im assuming this is b/c of the low reading or a bad engine ground. Any input? Thanks!

try the pullstring

A full battery should read 12.7 volts. If you have the heavy guage wire going to the starter you shoul be able to jumper between the heavy cable and the small wire from the ign switch (in neutral) and have it spin over. If not you may have a ground issue. Check grounds from battery to the engine and engine to firewall or chassis. 11.7 SHOULD turn over at least.

yeahh thats what im suspecting. im thinking the paint is stopping the engine ground to the chassis. i'll have to make sure its metal to metal....it prolly isn't lol

That'll cause problems for sure.

time to go ls1

Yep..time to start over.

ALWAYS remove paint from any surface when creating a ground.

He doesn't want to slow the car down.

yeahh i was hoping when i put the bolt through the hole it would strip the paint out. prolly needs to be put in and out a few more times

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!!

Good luck getting the car started.

No, the SURFACE where the ground wire touches the body needs to be cleaned as well. Don't rely on the bolt to form the bond, TRUST me.

I lol'd

car cranks when i jump the starter to by pass the ign switch. hopefully just need a new one and not wiring under the dash

What about your neutral safety switch or clutch safety switch? Hooked up?

yeahh thats all good. should the car turn over jumping the starter?

The engine should spin. The car itself should stay put lol. Unless its in gear!

ok just wanted to check lol. i know there should be fuel. now gotta test for spark it seems

if you are just jumping the starter than NO, the vehicle will not start. The ignition switch will open the current to go back to to the fusebox and open the relay for the fuel pump and your distributor, coilpacks or whatever. Your starter is only a momentary switch to get the others working in conjunction with each other

ah ok. i was thinking that but wasn't to sure. i'll change out the switch when i can then report back

I wouldn't throw parts at it. Verify other things first. Does the radio come on? Are you getting signal to the fuse panel. On gm it would be any pink wire. I do not know on the honda. I would verify you are getting signal to places it is needed before you replace something. That is how you become broke.

i dont have a radio right now lol. all dash lights come on. fresh battery. when i test the wire that goes to the ign switch on the starter i dont get anything

tried a new ignition switch and it didnt fix it lol

Check all fuses to make sure their good and in the correct locations.

You need to make sure you have power going to and from the ignition switch. And make sure that the power is going to the fuse box when ignition key is turned. Make sure neutral safety switch is good. I believe your problem is going to be in the wiring or a fuse/relay

yeahh im not very good with electrical things so im not to sure how to test it. i've done what i know and stuff but thats pretty limited lol. def some kind of wiring problem

ok i think i have something to go off of finally. looked at wiring diagrams and what not to see where all the ignition switch runs through. checked the fuses it would go through and all came up good. long story short back when i did the 5spd swap in the car i had to cut a wire on the starter relay. the wire i had to splice into for the clutch pedal pulled out of the plug so i cut the wires off the plug and added connectors on the wires to plug them individually into the relay. it seems like the clutch pedal isn't flipping the switch so to say so to bypass it im gonna ground it and see what happens. grounding it the clutch pedal doesn't have to be pushed down for the car to start

sounds like the little plug fell out the clutch pedal assembly....

the clutch safety switch sends the ground signal to the starter solenoid, not power...

you should have 12v at the starters large wire, at the alternator large wire and at the underhood fuse box. the ignition switch feeds the fuse panel, the fuse panel feeds the alternator and starter....

your transmission ground strap is very important. you are grounding through fresh clear coat and paint on the chassis and engine enamel on the transmission.

well i grounded the neutral safety switch and the car cranks when i turn the key now. now to look for why its not starting loll

got it to start lol

And it was?

Ignorance.










Sorry, couldn't leave that one.

why the car wasn't cranking with the key was from the neutral safety switch. i grounded it and the car cranked right up. i forgot to ground the main relay so my fuel pump primes and the cel goes away. when i ground both of them the car started right up. only let it run for a few seconds b/c i dont have a couple things. sounded slightly rough. hopefully its from an open o2 hole and the brake booster vacuum line not being hooked up