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s14.5gonewide 08-22-2010 01:28 PM

ls ignition upgrared
 
anyone know the part numbers for the ls2 coil upgrade msd?

also is their a coilpack amplifier for the ls2 or for the ls series ignition?

as in the msd cop amplifier box or coilblaster that owrks with the ls2 truck coils?


help:)

Carlrx7 08-22-2010 01:46 PM

after market coils are just for bling

bwelch 08-22-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlrx7 (Post 88119)
after market coils are just for bling

x2. Stock coils are the way to go

LXtasy 08-22-2010 02:18 PM

x3. Can't beat the reliability of the stockers

Illusions 08-22-2010 03:28 PM

Many ls boards will tell you to stay away from the msd coils. The stockers are still the best.

1998ta__1991rs 08-22-2010 03:32 PM

the best coils are the truck coils, the MSD's arnt worth the money, guys are making well over 1000hp with the stockers

Matts94Z28 08-22-2010 03:36 PM

I would get an optispark

LStang 08-22-2010 03:37 PM

'''''''''''''i heard one day that there are stock coils out there with some heat sink fins on them and they are the best out of the shock but there are many making over 1000hp with stockers so i would stay away from MSD coils,,,,,,,,,,,,

blkscls1z 08-22-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Matts94Z28 (Post 88127)
I would get an optispark

:hysterical:

Harry 08-22-2010 04:58 PM

I think I would just convert it to a Carb. and be done with it. Besides that's some tricky stuff that fuel injection junk. Then you only got one coil to mess with.

Derek 08-22-2010 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 1998ta__1991rs (Post 88126)
the best coils are the truck coils, the MSD's arnt worth the money, guys are making well over 1000hp with the stockers

Yup!


If you really want a set I saw a set at parks on Rivers yesterday for for like $850. MSD

s14.5gonewide 08-22-2010 05:20 PM

well is thir a coil amplifier.. because the truck ls2 coils arn't cutting it.


i tried ls1, ls2,ls2 car,ls2truck,msd ls2 coil and still have the same issue. i might throw a m&w ignition on it to amplify the spark and it will also alow for better ignition on the leading edge and traling edge.

and on the dyno the msd coils worked exactly like the ls2 truck. where the ls2 car and all others acted like the ls1.


what are some upgrades the ls guys are doing? amplifiers, ignition boxes, blaster coils hei tower coils? if i had hair i would be pulling it out i have been trouble shooting last 2 days on the dyno.

ElecTech 08-22-2010 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by s14.5gonewide (Post 88138)

what are some upgrades the ls guys are doing? amplifiers, ignition boxes, blaster coils hei tower coils? if i had hair i would be pulling it out i have been trouble shooting last 2 days on the dyno.

That's just it, they're not. That is what most are trying to relay.

What is exactly is the nature of the problem?

s14.5gonewide 08-22-2010 07:23 PM

coil on plug setup is dieing out up top.

i have tried everything in way of swapping diffrent coils from vaqrious ls series motors and nothing helps.

so far the most reliable combo is ... ls2 truck coils with msd 8.8 wires but it still does not cut it.

i have toyed with the idea of a cdi or ignition amplifier.


the issue is not timing drift or pre trailing edge ignition. these have all been ruled out on the dyno.


the problem is at 8,200 rpms the ignition system just cant stand up and do its damn job.

Carlrx7 08-22-2010 08:27 PM

Have you tried to mess with the "Spark Dwell" in HPTuners? id also recommend stock wires and regap to .030

1998ta__1991rs 08-22-2010 08:33 PM

what kind of car do you have them on? there should be no problem with the stock coils pulling to 8200. the only other option for ls motors is doing the front mount distributor

LStang 08-22-2010 08:48 PM

i heard that most go with the front mount dist if they turn over like 7500-7800

BigdaddyDupree 08-22-2010 09:49 PM

msd wires are the problem. neil had a number of problems with them on the TBSS

s14.5gonewide 08-22-2010 09:50 PM

think we figured out the problem.
http://www.jfetech.nl/LS2-Coil

pretty much the coils cant handle the high boost(still not at target psi) and rpm's a 1000whp ls motor makes less per cyl than our car so the coil has to work much harder.. we actually started seeing timing drift from the coils(checking oms) on the top end..

we spin over 8k np the car was still making power and torque at that point. we are throwing some new ls2 truck coils. new 8.8 wires and a cdi ignition box..

the box is a dual capacitor that will hold the voltage and will also do multispark (pre,during,post) and is an amplifier

i will know mid week of the issue is resolved parts are being next dayed to the shop/dyno

i hope this does the trick.

BigdaddyDupree 08-22-2010 09:54 PM

i have the MSD 6010 box on mine but its carb, you can use it with fuel injection also with a harness.


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