Props to AJE

Rattletrap · 06-05-2012, 08:57 AM

I had the car 'aligned' by a local shop that has done every other vehicle I needed done in the past 12 years. This ranges from DDs to the Camaro to my truck. So I have a comfort level in their ability.
I put the coupe on the road Saturday and its not right, way too "twitchy", guess its oversteer b/c a little move L or R makes you do alot more work L and R to get it straight.
But in a effort to get some feed back from AJE (K-member and A-arms) I emailed them not expecting any response but to my suprise they have been very responsive. Couple emails back and forth yesterday with another one today. Providing me with information that is helpful and asking questions that make sense.

Just wanted to give them some feedback knowing lots of times no one post the good stuff, just the bad.

Rattletrap · 06-05-2012, 09:03 AM

I should go ahead and get some responses on what the alignment should be....

Camber is L .1* R .3*
Caster is L .6* R .7*
Toe L .12* R.13*

I am used to seeing toe in inches but degrees seems to be common now and from what I can tell that is about an 1/8". And I am assuming its toed out but I am open to listening and learning.

AJE (and others) have suggested a 7-8* Caster #.

Thoughts/Suggestions?

Front suspension:
AJE K and A-arms
QA1 coil overs
stock Rack and Pinion
no bumpsteer kit (not sold i need one)

Rear Suspension:
stock-some have suggested I put the tubular stuff on it to see if that corrects the issue but I dont think that will do it. I have been in other OLD stuff and not feel this out of control.

No sway bars F or R. Truck doesnt have them either and I feel very comfy in that thing.

1iron · 06-05-2012, 09:48 AM

-.5 to 0 camber
As much caster as you can get
Toe in 1/16
Bumpsteer kit will keep you from a toe out condition as the suspension travels.

I am not an expert. Mine is setup this way and drives great.

Toe out makes a car sketchy to drive.

slowgreen99 · 06-05-2012, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rattletrap

I should go ahead and get some responses on what the alignment should be....

Camber is L .1* R .3*
Caster is L .6* R .7*
Toe L .12* R.13*

I am used to seeing toe in inches but degrees seems to be common now and from what I can tell that is about an 1/8". And I am assuming its toed out but I am open to listening and learning.

AJE (and others) have suggested a 7-8* Caster #.

Thoughts/Suggestions?

Front suspension:
AJE K and A-arms
QA1 coil overs
stock Rack and Pinion
no bumpsteer kit (not sold i need one)

Rear Suspension:
stock-some have suggested I put the tubular stuff on it to see if that corrects the issue but I dont think that will do it. I have been in other OLD stuff and not feel this out of control.

No sway bars F or R. Truck doesnt have them either and I feel very comfy in that thing.

Why no rear sway bar or ARB? Just wondering.

Darryl Buckner · 06-05-2012, 12:49 PM

I run AJE stuff with no problems either, and they are very good at responding to customers. Mine tracked really funny with no rear sway also. I went to an ARB and it does good except for the tires like to track on certain pavments..

schardbody · 06-05-2012, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1iron

-.5 to 0 camber
As much caster as you can get
Toe in 1/16
Bumpsteer kit will keep you from a toe out condition as the suspension travels.

I am not an expert. Mine is setup this way and drives great.

Toe out makes a car sketchy to drive.

this is exactly how i would set you up if you came to me for an alignment if its a track car.

street i would add a little more negative camber, and keep the caster moderate. too much caster will cause light steering at high speeds.

Rattletrap · 06-05-2012, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowgreen99

Why no rear sway bar or ARB? Just wondering.

Just have not put one on it, it didnt come with one and I have not looked around for one.
Any recommendations?? Probably want something somewhat streetable.

I talked to the shop that did the alignment and he asked if there were any other steering problems that could be causing it. Said it was all new stuff.
Said they would relook at it if I wanted them to.
SO, I think to rule out rear end play of worn out bushings I will put the tubular stuff on it and see what happens.

If it still acts goofy I will take it back and give them specs to move things to. OR I will just do it myself (probably not the best idea).

So would one agree that I need more Caster? And Toe should be less than .12 to .13*? from looking around that's almost an 1/8" of toe but not sure if its in or out....

ShawnBoyMoody · 06-05-2012, 01:47 PM

Most of your anti roll bars are supposed to be disconnected if street driven. You can rip the mounts right off because there is no give.

06-05-2012, 08:57 AM	#1
Rattletrap Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 402	Props to AJE I had the car 'aligned' by a local shop that has done every other vehicle I needed done in the past 12 years. This ranges from DDs to the Camaro to my truck. So I have a comfort level in their ability. I put the coupe on the road Saturday and its not right, way too "twitchy", guess its oversteer b/c a little move L or R makes you do alot more work L and R to get it straight. But in a effort to get some feed back from AJE (K-member and A-arms) I emailed them not expecting any response but to my suprise they have been very responsive. Couple emails back and forth yesterday with another one today. Providing me with information that is helpful and asking questions that make sense. Just wanted to give them some feedback knowing lots of times no one post the good stuff, just the bad. __________________ 71 C10 LWB 6.0/4l80e swap

06-05-2012, 09:03 AM	#2
Rattletrap Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 402	I should go ahead and get some responses on what the alignment should be.... Camber is L .1* R .3* Caster is L .6* R .7* Toe L .12* R.13* I am used to seeing toe in inches but degrees seems to be common now and from what I can tell that is about an 1/8". And I am assuming its toed out but I am open to listening and learning. AJE (and others) have suggested a 7-8* Caster #. Thoughts/Suggestions? Front suspension: AJE K and A-arms QA1 coil overs stock Rack and Pinion no bumpsteer kit (not sold i need one) Rear Suspension: stock-some have suggested I put the tubular stuff on it to see if that corrects the issue but I dont think that will do it. I have been in other OLD stuff and not feel this out of control. No sway bars F or R. Truck doesnt have them either and I feel very comfy in that thing. __________________ 71 C10 LWB 6.0/4l80e swap

06-05-2012, 12:49 PM	#5
Darryl Buckner The Top Dog Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,318	I run AJE stuff with no problems either, and they are very good at responding to customers. Mine tracked really funny with no rear sway also. I went to an ARB and it does good except for the tires like to track on certain pavments.. __________________ When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson

06-05-2012, 01:47 PM	#8
ShawnBoyMoody Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the lab.... Posts: 8,159	Most of your anti roll bars are supposed to be disconnected if street driven. You can rip the mounts right off because there is no give. __________________ The Krusty Koupe "Luck favors the oblivious, and boy am I lucky!"

06-05-2012, 09:48 AM	#3
1iron Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,014	-.5 to 0 camber As much caster as you can get Toe in 1/16 Bumpsteer kit will keep you from a toe out condition as the suspension travels. I am not an expert. Mine is setup this way and drives great. Toe out makes a car sketchy to drive.