Carb/Nitrous guys come on in! - Page 2

Bradleyrj · 08-21-2011, 06:34 PM

Just dont like it. Rather keep them seperate. Like food on a plate, it should never touch. Im just picky like that.

ShawnBoyMoody · 08-21-2011, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WWhittle

One pump, fuel log with separate regs.

What are you calling a "fuel log"? I have a log style filter is that what you mean? I currently have two of the holley regs on the car.....One runs the the carb and the first stage and the other is for the second stage. I wanna lose the second stage anyway so should I use one reg for the carb and the other reg for the single stage when I change to the big shot?

ShawnBoyMoody · 08-21-2011, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 05Saleen

I alway's ran a Holley Black with nitrous on my big block. Never had a problem running a 275 shot.

Oughta work for me then!

LXtasy · 08-21-2011, 06:49 PM

http://www.dragzine.com/news/new-pro...om-aeromotive/

ShawnBoyMoody · 08-21-2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LXtasy

http://www.dragzine.com/news/new-pro...om-aeromotive/

That looks like something off Zac's car. Outa my league lol.

LXtasy · 08-21-2011, 06:57 PM

read the article. I believe that is what wes is talking about

bwelch · 08-21-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ShawnBoyMoody

Oughta work for me then!

Ask him how fast he was going....Unless your gonna buy a high dollar single pump like Wes is talking about then just do what I recommended its cheaper. With a front mount cell you can run race gas in it and 93 in the tank. It makes it not quite so timing sensetive.

ShawnBoyMoody · 08-21-2011, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bwelch

Ask him how fast he was going....Unless your gonna buy a high dollar single pump like Wes is talking about then just do what I recommended its cheaper. With a front mount cell you can run race gas in it and 93 in the tank. It makes it not quite so timing sensetive.

Not trying to be a pain I just dont like the front mounted fuel cell idea. When I saw that on Brandons car I cringed. I can just see him hitting the wall and that fuel cell rupturing......instant fireball. Scares me having a gallon of fuel 6 inches from the header.

bwelch · 08-21-2011, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ShawnBoyMoody

Not trying to be a pain I just dont like the front mounted fuel cell idea. When I saw that on Brandons car I cringed. I can just see him hitting the wall and that fuel cell rupturing......instant fireball. Scares me having a gallon of fuel 6 inches from the header.

Be prepared to spends some money then. Plenty of people run that setup.

BAD BOB · 08-21-2011, 07:29 PM

id run a a2000. would be plenty for that built motor. my dad has one that is basically brand new that he may get rid of.

mark king · 08-21-2011, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ShawnBoyMoody

Not trying to be a pain I just dont like the front mounted fuel cell idea. When I saw that on Brandons car I cringed. I can just see him hitting the wall and that fuel cell rupturing......instant fireball. Scares me having a gallon of fuel 6 inches from the header.

bg 400 for motor and a fogger and a plate and never had any problems.it run 490 with that .small block..

Chillerman · 08-23-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bwelch

Ask him how fast he was going....Unless your gonna buy a high dollar single pump like Wes is talking about then just do what I recommended its cheaper. With a front mount cell you can run race gas in it and 93 in the tank. It makes it not quite so timing sensetive.

Why would you want to run two different grades of fuel? The engine has to burn whatever you stuff down it's throat anyways. Just does not make sense. Run one type of fuel or the other.

Shawn, One pump and multiple regulators will work just like Wes said. You can always get rid of your stock tank and replace it with a fuel cell (hence weight savings) say like an 8 or 12 gallon cell. They come with more than one fuel feed so you can run two fuel pumps. I run two pumps because I was getting some pressure creep on the fuel regulator feeding the nitrous sytem. I had a hard time keeping the pressure consistant. I've got a holley blue for the nitrous and a magnafuel quick star 300 for the carb. So far no pressure creep, and works like a charm.

WWhittle · 08-23-2011, 11:57 PM

Whatever you do, please do not mix fuels. That might work fine for some street style setups but would be highly unadvisable for your setup. You can never get a tune right if your fuel type/mixture is inconsistent. That is a bad idea for so many reasons but I'm not going to get into it all, just don't do it....

I would run one big, good pump. When in doubt, look at a pro mod, lol. They run one pump.

The holly regs are perfect. They have been proven (datalogged) to hold pressure steadier than other nitrous side regs. Again, look what comes on a $100k nitrous pro mod motors from Fulton- holley's.

Do not mix your fuels!!! That is retarded!!!

slowgreen99 · 08-24-2011, 12:35 AM

Mixing fuels may not be the best route, but it's working for me and fits my budget. Yes, before its said "itll be cheaper than rebuilding the motor", I know this, but knock on wood, it's working so far. And the way my cell is mounted would take a side impact to rupture it, much safer than these....

and theyre are THOUSANDS of guys running their cells this way...
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...ount+fuel+cell

bwelch · 08-24-2011, 01:58 AM

There are plenty of cars that run 93 in the stock tank and race gas in the nitrous cell. Most of them are street cars and some of them are in the mid 5's. I can think of about 5 cars that I personally know that run that setup and they haven't had an issue yet. Once you get the tune up right I dont see how the mixture would change. Your always running 93 through the carb and when the nitrous hits its 112 through the plate.

Thats what we run in brandon's car and we have the tune up spot on. We haven't had any nitrous back fires, burnt plugs, or anything. Hell marcus even hit the rev limiter when the driveshaft spit out and the nitrous was on.

WWhittle · 08-24-2011, 08:16 AM

How do you know the tune is spot on when y'all have never shut the car off and pulled it back to check plugs? Y'all have no idea what your tune really is.

And 93 changes from pump to pump and brand to brand by the way.

I have told Brandon 100 times what to do to make sure he's good. Ya'll may even be leaving something on the table and not know it.

1998ta__1991rs · 08-24-2011, 08:29 AM

just run e85 in the tank and be done with it

BAD BOB · 08-24-2011, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 1998ta__1991rs

just run e85 in the tank and be done with it

then you will need a pump big enough to bump a swimming pool

slowgreen99 · 08-24-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by WWhittle

How do you know the tune is spot on when y'all have never shut the car off and pulled it back to check plugs? Y'all have no idea what your tune really is.

And 93 changes from pump to pump and brand to brand by the way.

I have told Brandon 100 times what to do to make sure he's good. Ya'll may even be leaving something on the table and not know it.

Yes we have pulled the car back a couple of times, and when the car broke, it was shut down and they looked good then too. The 93 is always from Hess lol, and the gas is the same brand. I want to get it to Tuten, but im poor.

1iron · 08-24-2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by slowgreen99

Yes we have pulled the car back a couple of times, and when the car broke, it was shut down and they looked good then too. The 93 is always from Hess lol, and the gas is the same brand. I want to get it to Tuten, but im poor.

Need to tune nitrous at the track. Shooting it on the dyno is not the same.

08-21-2011, 06:34 PM	#21
Bradleyrj Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Myrtle Beach Posts: 2,347	Just dont like it. Rather keep them seperate. Like food on a plate, it should never touch. Im just picky like that. __________________

08-21-2011, 06:49 PM	#24
LXtasy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Summerville, SC Posts: 9,564	http://www.dragzine.com/news/new-pro...om-aeromotive/ __________________

08-21-2011, 06:57 PM	#26
LXtasy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Summerville, SC Posts: 9,564	read the article. I believe that is what wes is talking about __________________

08-21-2011, 07:29 PM	#30
BAD BOB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SUMMERVILLE Posts: 3,681	id run a a2000. would be plenty for that built motor. my dad has one that is basically brand new that he may get rid of. __________________ IM BAD BOB

08-24-2011, 12:35 AM	#34
slowgreen99 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Summerville Posts: 7,740	Mixing fuels may not be the best route, but it's working for me and fits my budget. Yes, before its said "itll be cheaper than rebuilding the motor", I know this, but knock on wood, it's working so far. And the way my cell is mounted would take a side impact to rupture it, much safer than these.... and theyre are THOUSANDS of guys running their cells this way... http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...ount+fuel+cell __________________ M.R.E. Bad Bob Motorsports

08-23-2011, 11:57 PM	#33
WWhittle Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mt. Pleasant, SC Posts: 3,899	Whatever you do, please do not mix fuels. That might work fine for some street style setups but would be highly unadvisable for your setup. You can never get a tune right if your fuel type/mixture is inconsistent. That is a bad idea for so many reasons but I'm not going to get into it all, just don't do it.... I would run one big, good pump. When in doubt, look at a pro mod, lol. They run one pump. The holly regs are perfect. They have been proven (datalogged) to hold pressure steadier than other nitrous side regs. Again, look what comes on a $100k nitrous pro mod motors from Fulton- holley's. Do not mix your fuels!!! That is retarded!!!

08-24-2011, 01:58 AM	#35
bwelch Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,774	There are plenty of cars that run 93 in the stock tank and race gas in the nitrous cell. Most of them are street cars and some of them are in the mid 5's. I can think of about 5 cars that I personally know that run that setup and they haven't had an issue yet. Once you get the tune up right I dont see how the mixture would change. Your always running 93 through the carb and when the nitrous hits its 112 through the plate. Thats what we run in brandon's car and we have the tune up spot on. We haven't had any nitrous back fires, burnt plugs, or anything. Hell marcus even hit the rev limiter when the driveshaft spit out and the nitrous was on. __________________

08-24-2011, 08:16 AM	#36
WWhittle Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mt. Pleasant, SC Posts: 3,899	How do you know the tune is spot on when y'all have never shut the car off and pulled it back to check plugs? Y'all have no idea what your tune really is. And 93 changes from pump to pump and brand to brand by the way. I have told Brandon 100 times what to do to make sure he's good. Ya'll may even be leaving something on the table and not know it. Last edited by WWhittle; 08-24-2011 at 08:54 AM.

08-24-2011, 08:29 AM	#37
1998ta__1991rs Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: West Ash Posts: 4,283	just run e85 in the tank and be done with it __________________ Funny