Another Racing Video

Miker · 05-27-2013, 07:11 PM

jmd · 05-27-2013, 07:48 PM

nice run.

gearmesh, inc. · 05-27-2013, 10:14 PM

Nice driving!

It looks like you are actually having way more fun with that automatic trans in autocross than you ever would have had with a manual trans!

oldskoolstang · 05-27-2013, 11:15 PM

No titties and no crash = No care.....

j/k man, looked like a lot of fun.

Matts94Z28 · 05-27-2013, 11:21 PM

Pffft. I do that into the mooses parking lot around noon.

GreebeanZ28 · 05-28-2013, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by gearmesh, inc.

Nice driving!

It looks like you are actually having way more fun with that automatic trans in autocross than you ever would have had with a manual trans!

Buuuuulllllllshhhhhiiiiiiittttttttttttttt. I really cant emphasize that enough.

Miker · 05-28-2013, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GreebeanZ28

Buuuuulllllllshhhhhiiiiiiittttttttttttttt. I really cant emphasize that enough.

For AutoX the last thing you want a close ratio 6-speed.

Shifting = distraction from dodging cones.

svtguy · 05-28-2013, 07:55 AM

paddleshifters!

Miker · 05-28-2013, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by svtguy

paddleshifters!

It's on my list. :-)

GreebeanZ28 · 05-28-2013, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Miker

For AutoX the last thing you want a close ratio 6-speed.

Shifting = distraction from dodging cones.

Only had to shift in big courses, otherwise its 2nd gear all the way.

BIRDMAN · 05-28-2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GreebeanZ28

Only had to shift in big courses, otherwise its 2nd gear all the way.

Correct.

blkscls1z · 05-28-2013, 10:44 AM

Looks like a lot of fun! Nice driving.

RoadconeTuning · 05-28-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Miker

For AutoX the last thing you want a close ratio 6-speed.

Shifting = distraction from dodging cones.

this is pretty far from the truth... generally once you shift into 2nd you stay there... idk of many autcrosses that see much if any above 60mph... heck mine runs 47, 68, 98, 141 in 1st thru 4th.

Miker · 05-28-2013, 11:49 AM

Close ratio; look at all the time lost shifting 1-2-3.

(Some shitty driving too, 1000lbs rabbit is a bit different then my car.)

On a course where you can just leave it in 2nd in a manual vs auto there is no benefit of either. Once you start dropping into 1st or going into 3rd the auto really shines.

gearmesh, inc. · 05-28-2013, 12:51 PM

For those that may be considering paddle shift, US Shift makes a stand alone trans controller for the GM and Ford transmissions. Its got tons of options including paddle shift and two selectable programs. All it needs to work is ignition power and ground, tps signal, and a vss signal. Last time I ordered one, the controller ran $400 and the harness for your trans ran $150. This unit blows the TCI controller out the water on capability and costs a lot less, too.

Miker · 05-28-2013, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gearmesh, inc.

For those that may be considering paddle shift, US Shift makes a stand alone trans controller for the GM and Ford transmissions. Its got tons of options including paddle shift and two selectable programs. All it needs to work is ignition power and ground, tps signal, and a vss signal. Last time I ordered one, the controller ran $400 and the harness for your trans ran $150. This unit blows the TCI controller out the water on capability and costs a lot less, too.

The only issue with those is getting the ECU to be happy.

I'm putting in a new steering wheel but leaving the oem clock spring so I can use radio volume +/-, etc as passthrew for the paddles.

RoadconeTuning · 05-28-2013, 05:09 PM

think of all the time lost fighting the trans not decoupling and all of the extra inertia pushing the car along under braking and mid turn throttle respose... I've NEVER EVER Driven an automatic car and felt "yeah, this would be ruined by a manual" i've always thought... oh shit this is scary, i have zero control over power to the rear wheels...

auto = good for drag racing and your wifes car.... other than that its just an excuse for sucking at driving...

Miker · 05-28-2013, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RoadconeTuning

think of all the time lost fighting the trans not decoupling and all of the extra inertia pushing the car along under braking and mid turn throttle respose... I've NEVER EVER Driven an automatic car and felt "yeah, this would be ruined by a manual" i've always thought... oh shit this is scary, i have zero control over power to the rear wheels...

auto = good for drag racing and your wifes car.... other than that its just an excuse for sucking at driving...

With my tune = transgo shift kit it feels like a 1:1 connection any time you are moving above 2k rpm.

Engine braking, etc feels just like a manual.

blkscls1z · 05-28-2013, 08:30 PM

Saw the Monaro race car on 52 this evening.

gearmesh, inc. · 05-28-2013, 08:44 PM

The 4L60E and its variants have no engine braking when the shifter is in D4. They do have engine braking with the shifter in the D3, 2, and 1 positions. One odd trait is that there isn't engine braking when the trans is electrically commanded to 1st or 2nd while the shifter is in the D3 position. Sonnax has fixed this engineering oversight with a special valve that will provide engine braking during all 3 gears when the shifter is in D3 position. Miker's trans has this valve upgrade installed.

05-27-2013, 07:11 PM	#1
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jmd Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,177	nice run. __________________ Cadillac man

05-27-2013, 10:14 PM	#3
gearmesh, inc. creepy azz cracka Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerville Posts: 1,587	Nice driving! It looks like you are actually having way more fun with that automatic trans in autocross than you ever would have had with a manual trans! __________________ "I came into this world kicking, screaming,and covered in someone else's blood, I have no problem leaving the same way!" ÔÇ£If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. ThatÔÇÖs ridiculous. If I have a gun, what in the hell do I have to be paranoid about?ÔÇØ -Clint Smith, Thunder Ranch.

05-27-2013, 11:15 PM	#4
oldskoolstang Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Guyton, GA Posts: 1,412	No titties and no crash = No care..... j/k man, looked like a lot of fun. __________________ Working on junk....

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Matts94Z28 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Summerville Posts: 12,039	Pffft. I do that into the mooses parking lot around noon. __________________ Charleston Performance Solutions 4560 Rivers Ave. N. Charleston SC 29405 843-225-1142 https://www.facebook.com/CharlestonPerformanceSolutions www.facebook.com/Selepack

05-28-2013, 07:55 AM	#8
svtguy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: ladys island SC Posts: 215	paddleshifters!

05-28-2013, 10:44 AM	#12
blkscls1z Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Between Goose Creek & Moncks Corner Posts: 2,310	Looks like a lot of fun! Nice driving. __________________

05-28-2013, 11:49 AM	#14
Miker Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Goose Creek, SC Posts: 811	Close ratio; look at all the time lost shifting 1-2-3. (Some shitty driving too, 1000lbs rabbit is a bit different then my car.) On a course where you can just leave it in 2nd in a manual vs auto there is no benefit of either. Once you start dropping into 1st or going into 3rd the auto really shines. __________________ 06 GTO-aro AutoXer Printing my car's CARFAX uses a lot of toner. Last edited by Miker; 05-28-2013 at 11:53 AM.

05-28-2013, 12:51 PM	#15
gearmesh, inc. creepy azz cracka Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerville Posts: 1,587	For those that may be considering paddle shift, US Shift makes a stand alone trans controller for the GM and Ford transmissions. Its got tons of options including paddle shift and two selectable programs. All it needs to work is ignition power and ground, tps signal, and a vss signal. Last time I ordered one, the controller ran $400 and the harness for your trans ran $150. This unit blows the TCI controller out the water on capability and costs a lot less, too. __________________ "I came into this world kicking, screaming,and covered in someone else's blood, I have no problem leaving the same way!" ÔÇ£If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. ThatÔÇÖs ridiculous. If I have a gun, what in the hell do I have to be paranoid about?ÔÇØ -Clint Smith, Thunder Ranch.

05-28-2013, 05:09 PM	#17
RoadconeTuning Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Upstate, SC Posts: 2,684	think of all the time lost fighting the trans not decoupling and all of the extra inertia pushing the car along under braking and mid turn throttle respose... I've NEVER EVER Driven an automatic car and felt "yeah, this would be ruined by a manual" i've always thought... oh shit this is scary, i have zero control over power to the rear wheels... auto = good for drag racing and your wifes car.... other than that its just an excuse for sucking at driving... __________________ FIRSBIRZ

05-28-2013, 08:30 PM	#19
blkscls1z Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Between Goose Creek & Moncks Corner Posts: 2,310	Saw the Monaro race car on 52 this evening. __________________

05-28-2013, 08:44 PM	#20
gearmesh, inc. creepy azz cracka Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerville Posts: 1,587	The 4L60E and its variants have no engine braking when the shifter is in D4. They do have engine braking with the shifter in the D3, 2, and 1 positions. One odd trait is that there isn't engine braking when the trans is electrically commanded to 1st or 2nd while the shifter is in the D3 position. Sonnax has fixed this engineering oversight with a special valve that will provide engine braking during all 3 gears when the shifter is in D3 position. Miker's trans has this valve upgrade installed. __________________ "I came into this world kicking, screaming,and covered in someone else's blood, I have no problem leaving the same way!" ÔÇ£If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. ThatÔÇÖs ridiculous. If I have a gun, what in the hell do I have to be paranoid about?ÔÇØ -Clint Smith, Thunder Ranch.