Looking at another boat

[1998ta__1991rs]

Depends on the size of the boat

[BIRDMAN]

Originally Posted by 1998ta__1991rs

Depends on the size of the boat

[MonteC]

Originally Posted by MARTYROBBINS

Never said I did I know I am fat

[REDRAGTOPRS]

Mercury motors no longer have model years, so you can't really discover a particular model by its model year. A Mercury VERADO motor is just a VERADO motor as far as Mercury is concerned, and they don't have model years. Mercury says that elimination of model years is a "consumer benefit." They explain how the benefit is provided in a special website:

http://mercurymarine.com/serviceandw...rdfaqs/mye.php

Notwithstanding the premise that there are no model years, Mercury has made significant changes to the VERADO motor during its production. While their literature about the motor does not mention this, the designation "Gen II" (as in second generation) is in common use among consumers to help differentiate between the two models. The only way to recognize the Gen II motors is by a difference in the decorations used on the cowling. The designator "Gen II" does not appear, but the cowling decorations changed to a have more chrome or silver-metallic appearance.

There are substantial mechanical differences between the original VERADO and the VERADO that everyone (except Mercury) calls the "Gen II." You cannot update the older motors to have the new features because they involve changes in the engine block.

In an interview with BoatTest.com published in July of 2007, Mark D. Schwabero, then the president of Mercury outboards, said that the improvements included:

--Precision Machined Oil Dams in the Crankcase. By greatly reducing the clearance between the crankshaft and the ÔÇ£oil scrapersÔÇØ, the amount of oil mass that the crankshaft had to push through and swirl around was also reduced, thus releasing more usable horsepower.

--Eccentric Grooved Crankshaft Main Bearings. This slight change, too, reduced the amount of oil ÔÇ£sloshingÔÇØ around in the crankcase--and thus robbing power....

Cf.: http://www.boattest.com/resources/vi...spx?NewsID=286

There is also a video in which a similar presentation is made by Steve Miller, Verado Platform Manager of Mercury Marine. Mr. Miller explains that the fundamental basis for the improved performance of the Verado was the simple reduction of friction in the engine itself. The power saved from those losses goes right to the propeller shaft output.

Cf.: http://www.boattest.com/flash_video_...video=mercury/ verado_walkaround )

A common problem with the Mercury VERADO is a failure of the fuel vapor separator due to low tolerance to gasoline diluted with ethanol. During development of the VERADO most of the testing was probably done with pure gasoline. Now that everyone in North America is using ethanol-gasoline fuels, there have been many reports of failure of the fuel vapor separator, presumably caused by the ethanol, and Mercury has a designed a replacement part that is able to tolerate gasoline-ethanol blends better than the original. Replacement of the fuel vapor separator, or Fuel Supply Module (FSM), has been provided by Mercury in some cases as a warranty repair, and I don't think the owner has had to pay for it. I would certainly look into the condition of the FSM on any VERADO, particularly since it is almost impossible to avoid gasoline-ethanol fuels these days.

To work on a VERADO the dealer must invest in special diagnostic tools and send his staff for training on the motor. While there are many Mercury dealers, the percentage of them which have become qualified to provide VERADO service is still relatively small.

[svtguy]

my best friends father is head mechanic @sea island marine. mercury/yamaha certified for 20+years. over the countless hours i have there with them and my own boat. i can say this.. mercury verado cowlins and yamaha hpdi cowlins litter the place. when we repowered my 23'9 vector in 2009 we went with optimax dual 150's. he didnt want me having anything to do with verado at that point in time. but he also wouldnt let me consider any other engine manufacturer. yamaha was almost 6k more for same hp/combo. more weight also cause 4 stroke. i wanted speed for offshore ska fishing. and he could talk for hours about evinrude/suzuki and how they are shit in several dif ways. i asked about johnson he said what DNR or police/military coast guard boat has johnsons on it. i said enough said

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by DolSVT00

When they first came out on bass boats I was into fishing like flw tour wannabe Greg and Jeff . I had some buddies with them, and they spent more time in the shop than in the water, yet my Johnson still fires to this day.

FLW is bass fishing . We salt water fish for whatever pulls the rod .

[Matts94Z28]

Originally Posted by Jeff

FLW is bass fishing . We salt water fish for whatever pulls the rod .

[Matts94Z28]

Well... Tyler and I drove 7 hours from Charleston to Norfolk only to find out the boat had issues. The tach was broke, the splash well had some cracks in the gel at the corners and the trim pump leaked all of the fluid out. THEN, I discovered the bunks have broken off the corners of the sponson area where the pad ends and it raises up towards the transom!

I was not happy at all, but gathered myself and did a little bit of math on what would make me take it home... factored in the new interior, custom light weight glass rear seat, brand new trailer, seastar system, ect...

Ended up going home with the boat for $2700! Going to take some pictures and have some of the local fiberglass places look at it. Shouldn't be to hard on the wallet considering all of the money I saved on negotiation.

[labelblack68]

lookin good

[svtguy]

sounds sweet matt, the tach is easy fix. trim/tilt isnt bad either. the bunk issue could cause some headaches. i rebuilt my transom on my old 20' CC. had to replace some stringers cause rot. stress cracks were getting to serious. took me right at 2500 to get it back right. ShipShape of BFT did mine.

[MonteC]

Originally Posted by Matts94Z28

Well... Tyler and I drove 7 hours from Charleston to Norfolk only to find out the boat had issues. The tach was broke, the splash well had some cracks in the gel at the corners and the trim pump leaked all of the fluid out. THEN, I discovered the bunks have broken off the corners of the sponson area where the pad ends and it raises up towards the transom!

I was not happy at all, but gathered myself and did a little bit of math on what would make me take it home... factored in the new interior, custom light weight glass rear seat, brand new trailer, seastar system, ]

Its a fucking epipidemic. People have lost their minds when they try and sell stuff.

[GreebeanZ28]

So does it float or what?

[bambooi]

at least you got a deal

[RoadconeTuning]

needs shrimpping nets

[Matts94Z28]

Surgery.

[yota]

should have hit me up and let me go check it out for you before driving 7 hours to buy it...

[Matts94Z28]

I'm on a boat!

[Ct.TOPGUN]

Nice find! Hope it cleans up nice.

I have been mildly looking for a Hydrostream Venus. 20' with cuddy cabin and can be made to fly!

[s14.5gonewide]

if your looking for another boat mat.. i have a 24ft aqua sport with a evenrude 225 id let go at a fair price.. needs a little tlc but its a solid setup.

[Matts94Z28]

Thanks. Hopefully I will be on the water in 3-4 weeks!