Just another 13 GT500 video - Page 2

FRDnemesis · 08-22-2012, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisheltra

I dont understand why the ballers that can afford the cars dont buy a good set of drag wheels.

Didn't you notice the age of those guys; they're not buying drag wheels.

1badLTN · 08-22-2012, 09:49 PM

I can't wait to own a 13 gt500 in another year or less. These cars are absolutely outstanding. They have unlimited potential and as it has already been said have the hold on the market right now. I may bleed Ford blue but I dont care who you are, the gt500 outdoes the ZL1 in everyway.

FRDnemesis · 08-22-2012, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 1badLTN

the gt500 outdoes the ZL1 in everyway.

as long as that way is in a straight line.

1998ta__1991rs · 08-22-2012, 10:53 PM

id buy a new shelby over a zl1

03SVTCOBRA · 08-23-2012, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by FRDnemesis

as long as that way is in a straight line.

Actually... This chart pretty much says alot, and suprised most of the zl1 guys. Its just the results of the magazine tests... that all said the zl1 was better because it was more comfy lol.

LXtasy · 08-23-2012, 07:28 AM

I too would buy the shelby. Unless of course the zl1 looses weight, has more power, less blind spots, and wasnt in the corvette price range. Other than that I would lol. But of course for the price i would be responsible and buy a ctsv for the family

GreebeanZ28 · 08-23-2012, 01:01 PM

No mention of seats! LOL.

DolSVT00 · 08-23-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 03SVTCOBRA

Actually... This chart pretty much says alot, and suprised most of the zl1 guys. Its just the results of the magazine tests... that all said the zl1 was better because it was more comfy lol.

You should have gave them the STD corrected version of that chart with smoothing set to 5.

FRDnemesis · 08-23-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 03SVTCOBRA

Actually... This chart pretty much says alot, and suprised most of the zl1 guys. Its just the results of the magazine tests... that all said the zl1 was better because it was more comfy lol.

I havent seen those charts before but I find those road course numbers somewhat suspect for one reason. The numbers for the GT500 are better than the Laguna Seca Mustang which is a purpose built Road Course car. Did you copy and paste that from someone who created that spreadsheet or did you verify those numbers personally?

Historically, high horsepowered cars with Live axle don't do as well on a road course as a somewhat comparable IRS-cars for obvious reasons. I also think this is why Ford has never released their Nurburgring times for the GT500.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-GT500, I love the car. I'm just more about facts that make 1 car better than another on all levels. Straightline is pretty simple (chassis weight+horsepower). Getting it to perform on all levels takes more engineering.

03SVTCOBRA · 08-23-2012, 05:47 PM

Those were 4 of the first "unbaiased" reviews put into a chart. If you watch them all on youtube they all say that for a live axle it handles pretty well. Im sure it makes plenty of time up in the straights, but if it couldnt take the twistys too it wouldnt even be close. I also belive in 1 of the reviews they didnt swap the brake fluid out before they tracked the car which is recomended by ford, and got some serious brake fade from the fluid heating up, and gave it a hard time because of that.

GreebeanZ28 · 08-23-2012, 07:27 PM

Swap brake fluid? What kinda racecar nonsense is that? Here, pay for all these extra diff coolers and adjustable shocks and all, but youre going to have to do the brakes yourself. What a craptastic way to cheap on on a 65 grand car. Road & track reported fade in one lap, motor trend's Randy Pobst said it didnt feel like it was going to stop. What the hell.

ForceFed4g63 · 08-23-2012, 07:49 PM

If all you have to do for it to perform like a beast on the track is swap out the brake fluid I'd still take it over the ZL1 lol.

Silver-Dollar · 08-23-2012, 07:51 PM

Either way, I can find better ways to spend $70k.

chrisheltra · 08-23-2012, 07:58 PM

It would be very hard for me to choose between a GT500 and Z06 in that price range.

GreebeanZ28 · 08-23-2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ForceFed4g63

If all you have to do for it to perform like a beast on the track is swap out the brake fluid I'd still take it over the ZL1 lol.

All im saying is that after forking out an extra 2,950 for the oil, trans and diff coolers on top of the 3,495 for the adjstabke shocks, cool wheels and torsen diff, that the brake fluid isnt up to par? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. Zl1 doesnt have any of these brake issues. Then again its already coming slower into the turn. Lol.

chrisheltra · 08-23-2012, 08:44 PM

Why you would choose either of these heavy ass heat soak prone blower cars as road course cars is beyond my grasp in the first place.

03SVTCOBRA · 08-23-2012, 08:44 PM

Most anyone whos going to track these cars will change the brake fluid... even the zl1 guys did in the tests, not sure why ford dropped the ball in the mag reviews. Theres a big difference in regular driving and track driving with the brake fluid heating up. The gt500 has very good brakes...

03SVTCOBRA · 08-23-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisheltra

Why you would choose either of these heavy ass heat soak prone blower cars as road course cars is beyond my grasp in the first place.

This lol, zl1 guys cant even get down the 1/4 mile before it sucks the power out and the gt500s are probably the same. I bet they pull so much timing on a track its not even funny.

DolSVT00 · 08-23-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisheltra

Why you would choose either of these heavy ass heat soak prone blower cars as road course cars is beyond my grasp in the first place.

Because now days everyone thinks their the stig and has a road course in their back yard.

I think were all trying to be more British because every review compares some American car to a British or German exotic.

Everyone has forgot that a muscle car should need walls and bumper rails to turn left or right but who gave a shit it was a muscle car.

FRDnemesis · 08-23-2012, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GreebeanZ28

No mention of seats! LOL.

Thats the first I've seen that vid but is exactly what Ryan and I were talking about. The IRS is just a better suited piece of the puzzle for things that are trying to do more than go straight.

It's pretty apparent that right now Chevrolet is doing a few things with the Camaro.

New COPO= Drag Car
New 1LE= Road Course Car (talk is it set some crazy record at VIR this month)
ZL1= All around street/track car
SS= standard entry level turd.

08-22-2012, 10:53 PM	#24
1998ta__1991rs Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: West Ash Posts: 4,283	id buy a new shelby over a zl1 __________________ Funny

08-23-2012, 07:28 AM	#26
LXtasy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Summerville, SC Posts: 9,564	I too would buy the shelby. Unless of course the zl1 looses weight, has more power, less blind spots, and wasnt in the corvette price range. Other than that I would lol. But of course for the price i would be responsible and buy a ctsv for the family __________________

08-23-2012, 01:01 PM	#27
GreebeanZ28 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Easley Posts: 2,300	No mention of seats! LOL. __________________

08-23-2012, 05:47 PM	#30
03SVTCOBRA Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,041	Those were 4 of the first "unbaiased" reviews put into a chart. If you watch them all on youtube they all say that for a live axle it handles pretty well. Im sure it makes plenty of time up in the straights, but if it couldnt take the twistys too it wouldnt even be close. I also belive in 1 of the reviews they didnt swap the brake fluid out before they tracked the car which is recomended by ford, and got some serious brake fade from the fluid heating up, and gave it a hard time because of that. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

08-23-2012, 07:27 PM	#31
GreebeanZ28 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Easley Posts: 2,300	Swap brake fluid? What kinda racecar nonsense is that? Here, pay for all these extra diff coolers and adjustable shocks and all, but youre going to have to do the brakes yourself. What a craptastic way to cheap on on a 65 grand car. Road & track reported fade in one lap, motor trend's Randy Pobst said it didnt feel like it was going to stop. What the hell. __________________

08-22-2012, 09:49 PM	#22
1badLTN Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 33	I can't wait to own a 13 gt500 in another year or less. These cars are absolutely outstanding. They have unlimited potential and as it has already been said have the hold on the market right now. I may bleed Ford blue but I dont care who you are, the gt500 outdoes the ZL1 in everyway.

08-23-2012, 07:49 PM	#32
ForceFed4g63 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Aiken Posts: 7,002	If all you have to do for it to perform like a beast on the track is swap out the brake fluid I'd still take it over the ZL1 lol. __________________ 2000 WS6 2005 CTS-V 2004 Titan QC 4x4

08-23-2012, 07:51 PM	#33
Silver-Dollar Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Summerville Posts: 1,019	Either way, I can find better ways to spend $70k. __________________ 2011 Tundra Crewmax Platinum

08-23-2012, 07:58 PM	#34
chrisheltra Neo is Jesus Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 13,265	It would be very hard for me to choose between a GT500 and Z06 in that price range. __________________ Gap A Hoe Racing

08-23-2012, 08:44 PM	#36
chrisheltra Neo is Jesus Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 13,265	Why you would choose either of these heavy ass heat soak prone blower cars as road course cars is beyond my grasp in the first place. __________________ Gap A Hoe Racing