Fox UCA mount problems. Need help.

Bradleyrj · 12-30-2008, 11:07 PM

Ok. So the tard who had the car before me fubar'd the rear UCA Mounts on the body. They removed and replaced the mounts with what is pictured below. The "Mounts" are bolted to the car with 4 bolts. There is a metal plate inside the car "under the back seat" that sandwiches the factory floor pan and is bolted down using the 4 bolts via the mount underneath the car. (Make sense??)

What I DONT like about this setup is the fact that the UCA isnt completely supported. There is only one "side" of the arm supported. IMO NOT Kosher at all. So Looking for some knowledge.. how would you fix this?

Weld it all up and add a plate so both sides of the arm are supported? (Ghetto but cost efficient and effective) Scratch it completely and install a Wild Rides S-Box (Effective but not cost efficient) or....

Here are some pics of what I'm working with. You can see that the arm geometry between the UCA and Mount is not correct? Is the Arm wrong? Or is the Mount incorrect?

Drivers Side:

Passenger side:

Example of incorrect geometry: This is the passenger side mount.

Never mind the ghetto blue and rigged up exhaust hanger. That's coming off.

Just need some input on what you would do to fix this.

05Saleen · 12-30-2008, 11:15 PM

Here is my suggestion. For under 400.00 and fixed right. (Plus Labor)
For a turbo and stardard shift tranny. I would strongly recommend it. If mine ever fails that is what I plan on buying.

http://wildridesracecars.com/store/home.php?cat=249

Chillerman · 12-30-2008, 11:16 PM

Holcomb Motorsports in Lumberton NC sells a S-Box repair kit. It's the whole upper mounting point replacement kit. Kind of expensive over 400.00, but this will fix your problem. Their part number is WR-SBOXF.

chrisheltra · 12-30-2008, 11:24 PM

Wow I cant believe those bolts haven't sheered yet. Other than that I don't have any constructive info for you. Sorry

05Saleen · 12-30-2008, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chillerman

Holcomb Motorsports in Lumberton NC sells a S-Box repair kit. It's the whole upper mounting point replacement kit. Kind of expensive over 400.00, but this will fix your problem. Their part number is WR-SBOXF.

That is the Wide Rides set up only you pay more at Holcomb. 374.00 through Wild Rides.

Chillerman · 12-30-2008, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 05Saleen

That is the Wide Rides set up only you pay more at Holcomb. 374.00 through Wild Rides.

Morey,

I was typing my post at the same time you were with the Holcomb catalog in front of me. I'm glad you posted that site. They definitely have a better price!

Bradleyrj · 12-30-2008, 11:36 PM

I have been looking at the Wild rides kit. (see first post) and found a few on ebay for 94+ cars for like 275.. much cheaper than the fox kit

Bradleyrj · 12-31-2008, 10:59 AM

Well a buddy linked me to a S-box for Fox cars for 265 so I jumped on it. Just gotta find someone to install it now. No welder here at the apartment.

05Saleen · 01-01-2009, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bradleyrj

Well a buddy linked me to a S-box for Fox cars for 265 so I jumped on it. Just gotta find someone to install it now. No welder here at the apartment.

You could alway's rent/borrow a generator!

Bradleyrj · 01-01-2009, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 05Saleen

You could alway's rent/borrow a generator!

I doubt the golfers would like me running a generator all day. My garage is only about 150 feet from the Tee box.

Darryl Buckner · 01-04-2009, 12:32 PM

All I can say is wow! They put gussetts on the brackets, but yet it looks like the entire trailing arm is suspended by the bolt. Man thats crazy!! I have alot of Wild Rides stuff in my car, and its thought out pretty well..

Bradleyrj · 01-04-2009, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darryl Buckner

All I can say is wow! They put gussetts on the brackets, but yet it looks like the entire trailing arm is suspended by the bolt. Man thats crazy!! I have alot of Wild Rides stuff in my car, and its thought out pretty well..

IT IS. The entire arm is resting on ..technically one side of the bolt. BUMP THAT..

I have the S Box on order now. Should be here this week. Will I be able to install this here at home with bolts and drive the car a few miles to the shop to have it welded in? I would think as long as I use plenty of good hardware and dont jump any rail road tracks or anything I would be able to.

Thoughts.

Pesce Nero · 01-04-2009, 03:41 PM

i have never worked on any of that stuff but if it were me, i would also order some new bushings for the control arms and while your at the welder, have him box your control arms also. looks like you can adjust the control arm position with that new setup

i dont know what the stock setup looks like but that may be the most dangerous thing i have ever seen. thank god you caught that now before destroying your car

Bradleyrj · 01-04-2009, 04:35 PM

I already have solid lowers with good bushings. I also have a set of boxed stock uppers with good bushings installed ready to go on when I get the box welded in.

Darryl Buckner · 01-04-2009, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bradleyrj

IT IS. The entire arm is resting on ..technically one side of the bolt. BUMP THAT..

I have the S Box on order now. Should be here this week. Will I be able to install this here at home with bolts and drive the car a few miles to the shop to have it welded in? I would think as long as I use plenty of good hardware and dont jump any rail road tracks or anything I would be able to.

Thoughts.

Can't be any worse than one sided bolts holding everything in place. Thats what I did, bolted everything into place, and drove it to Camtech, where Cameron had one of his guys make it permenent..

Bradleyrj · 01-04-2009, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darryl Buckner

Can't be any worse than one sided bolts holding everything in place. Thats what I did, bolted everything into place, and drove it to Camtech, where Cameron had one of his guys make it permenent..

Good deal then. I'll do all of the measuring and bolting in. Get everything installed and then drive it to the shop for welding. That should cut down on cost to get it welded in as well.

badgt · 01-04-2009, 10:03 PM

Torque arm plus Panhard bar would replace it all nicely. No more UCA's and bad stock geometry to begin with.

Bradleyrj · 01-04-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by badgt

Torque arm plus Panhard bar would replace it all nicely. No more UCA's and bad stock geometry to begin with.

Have you priced a torque arm? For what I spent on the S-box and install I still couldnt buy a torque arm.

badgt · 01-05-2009, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bradleyrj

Have you priced a torque arm? For what I spent on the S-box and install I still couldnt buy a torque arm.

yes but I feel like the stock geometry and UCA's setup to begin with is flawed and isnt worth the time to replace. Griggs has some nice pieces for good prices.

Bradleyrj · 01-05-2009, 12:12 AM

People go 7's with parts mounted in the stock locations. That's good enough for me.

12-30-2008, 11:07 PM	#1
Bradleyrj Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Myrtle Beach Posts: 2,347	Fox UCA mount problems. Need help. Ok. So the tard who had the car before me fubar'd the rear UCA Mounts on the body. They removed and replaced the mounts with what is pictured below. The "Mounts" are bolted to the car with 4 bolts. There is a metal plate inside the car "under the back seat" that sandwiches the factory floor pan and is bolted down using the 4 bolts via the mount underneath the car. (Make sense??) What I DONT like about this setup is the fact that the UCA isnt completely supported. There is only one "side" of the arm supported. IMO NOT Kosher at all. So Looking for some knowledge.. how would you fix this? Weld it all up and add a plate so both sides of the arm are supported? (Ghetto but cost efficient and effective) Scratch it completely and install a Wild Rides S-Box (Effective but not cost efficient) or.... Here are some pics of what I'm working with. You can see that the arm geometry between the UCA and Mount is not correct? Is the Arm wrong? Or is the Mount incorrect? Drivers Side: Passenger side: Example of incorrect geometry: This is the passenger side mount. Never mind the ghetto blue and rigged up exhaust hanger. That's coming off. Just need some input on what you would do to fix this. __________________

12-30-2008, 11:15 PM	#2
05Saleen Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Goose Creek, SC Posts: 3,159	Here is my suggestion. For under 400.00 and fixed right. (Plus Labor) For a turbo and stardard shift tranny. I would strongly recommend it. If mine ever fails that is what I plan on buying. http://wildridesracecars.com/store/home.php?cat=249 __________________ 05 Saleen, 91 Mustang LX, 99 Lightning Last edited by 05Saleen; 12-30-2008 at 11:19 PM.

12-30-2008, 11:16 PM	#3
Chillerman Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Goose Creek Posts: 1,232	Holcomb Motorsports in Lumberton NC sells a S-Box repair kit. It's the whole upper mounting point replacement kit. Kind of expensive over 400.00, but this will fix your problem. Their part number is WR-SBOXF. __________________ 88 Mustang LX mild 302, no laughing gas, and the rest is secret. Best 1/8th 7.843 @ 87.98, best 1/4 12.427 @ 111.20, best 60 1.601 89 Mustang LX wheels up @ Pinks All Out

12-30-2008, 11:24 PM	#4
chrisheltra Neo is Jesus Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 13,265	Wow I cant believe those bolts haven't sheered yet. Other than that I don't have any constructive info for you. Sorry __________________ Gap A Hoe Racing

12-30-2008, 11:36 PM	#7
Bradleyrj Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Myrtle Beach Posts: 2,347	I have been looking at the Wild rides kit. (see first post) and found a few on ebay for 94+ cars for like 275.. much cheaper than the fox kit __________________

12-31-2008, 10:59 AM	#8
Bradleyrj Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Myrtle Beach Posts: 2,347	Well a buddy linked me to a S-box for Fox cars for 265 so I jumped on it. Just gotta find someone to install it now. No welder here at the apartment. __________________

01-04-2009, 12:32 PM	#11
Darryl Buckner The Top Dog Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,318	All I can say is wow! They put gussetts on the brackets, but yet it looks like the entire trailing arm is suspended by the bolt. Man thats crazy!! I have alot of Wild Rides stuff in my car, and its thought out pretty well.. __________________ When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson

01-04-2009, 03:41 PM	#13
Pesce Nero Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,680	i have never worked on any of that stuff but if it were me, i would also order some new bushings for the control arms and while your at the welder, have him box your control arms also. looks like you can adjust the control arm position with that new setup i dont know what the stock setup looks like but that may be the most dangerous thing i have ever seen. thank god you caught that now before destroying your car Last edited by Pesce Nero; 01-04-2009 at 03:43 PM.

01-04-2009, 04:35 PM	#14
Bradleyrj Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Myrtle Beach Posts: 2,347	I already have solid lowers with good bushings. I also have a set of boxed stock uppers with good bushings installed ready to go on when I get the box welded in. __________________

01-04-2009, 10:03 PM	#17
badgt Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 127	Torque arm plus Panhard bar would replace it all nicely. No more UCA's and bad stock geometry to begin with.

01-05-2009, 12:12 AM	#20
Bradleyrj Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Myrtle Beach Posts: 2,347	People go 7's with parts mounted in the stock locations. That's good enough for me. __________________