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[Jeff@HHP]

Originally Posted by jmd

i beg to differ. this kind of things people should know. i know that no shop has 100% positive feedback and things happen.everytime i think of getting stuff done at this shop i see a thread with problem work done.this is not the 1st issue i have heard on this board about this shop.

You sir have nothing but negitive things to say about my shop. To my knowledge you have only been to my shop once to talk trash about a GTO build we were doing. You tell stories of how we blew up the engine in your GTO. Word gets around and I read the GTO boards as well. What happen to your car was not done at my shop or by me. If are going to tell a story at least tell the truth!

Jeff

[Illusions]

Jeff, I was just informed this past weekend that you feel nothing is wrong with the blazer and it sucks to be me. this does not sit well.

[Jeff@HHP]

Originally Posted by Illusions

Jeff, I was just informed this past weekend that you feel nothing is wrong with the blazer and it sucks to be me. this does not sit well.

Not sure were your info. is coming from. I am on the phone with Jr. right now.

Jeff

[Matts94Z28]

At what point does this become slander?

[ShawnBoyMoody]

Originally Posted by MonteC

Ive seen many cars go in and out of Jeffs shop. Lots of return customers with new projects to get done. Many happy customers. Ive logged many hours over at HHP and consider Jeff to be a good friend of mine. On the flip side Ive seen and heard about the unhappy customers.

Unfortunately when you do good work and have a shop full, its going to happen. Ill admit it, it happens at my shop. Ive had cars ive kept WAY long than I should have, and Ive had unhappy customers, because I wasnt able to finish something quick enough.

Then you try and hire people on to get the new work done and sometimes you get people who you think can do good work and it turns out they cant. Ive been there, it sucks when you want to help and get shit done but you cant do it all yourself. I think Jeff has a great full time crew in there now, Jamie, Zac, Shawn, and Mike.

Hal, from what I saw of the blazer it looked like a big project. You guys are trying to do some awesome stuff with that big blazer. I think 2 weeks is a ridiculously short amount of time for a project of that caliber. Maybe if Jeff had a guy who only focused on that project for 10 hours a day he could pull it off but day to day things do get in the way, and are a necessary evil. I will agree that six months is on the long side.

I wish things had worked out better on both ends, but I dont think this HHP bashing is needed. The performance car world has grown leaps and bounds in the last 20 years, hell the last 10 years. Things are becoming more complicated and people are pushing ideas and engineering further and further. Im not going to speak first hand about your project because I dont know the story. But alot of problems on big projects come from miscommunication, parts issues, different schools of thought, money, or having so many ideas of what they want. This is not just on the owners side, the shop can create problems as well, inconsistent help, over taxed with work, or day to day operations putting important long term goals on hold. Its easy to grab that dollar thats infront of your face instead of the one thats a mile away. Im guilty of it as well, bottom line is we are only trying to keep our doors open.

Unless there was blatant ripoff, stolen property, or fraud then my opinion is that these types of grievances should not be thrown around on a message board.

Great post.

[Illusions]

Originally Posted by Matts94Z28

At what point does this become slander?

you do not know anything of this situation. move along

[Matts94Z28]

Originally Posted by Illusions

you do not know anything of this situation. move along

Public forum, bud.

[minytrker]

Originally Posted by Matts94Z28

Public forum, bud.

Will you be here by 8 am?

[Matts94Z28]

Originally Posted by minytrker

Will you be here by 8 am?

Going to be busy

I know what you meant though. I ordered the system from eBay ($360) and plan to have Sasquatch install it for me. I heard he may have installed one or two in the past.

[jmd]

Originally Posted by Jeff@HHP

You sir have nothing but negitive things to say about my shop. To my knowledge you have only been to my shop once to talk trash about a GTO build we were doing. You tell stories of how we blew up the engine in your GTO. Word gets around and I read the GTO boards as well. What happen to your car was not done at my shop or by me. If are going to tell a story at least tell the truth!

Jeff

i never have had any work done by your shop. you never had my car on a dyno. i don't know what you are talking about. the one time i was there i saw adams old gto there. i said watch out for the common problem of pinching the fuel line from the tank . that happened to me by another shop. my old car was dynoed at showzone and your tuner was there. that is what was said. get your story straight!

[KRYPTONITE]

This is Why Its best just to do all the work yourself, Cuts out the middle man, and the only person to Blaim is yourself, Plus you save a ASS of money!!!

and ray Im still not sure How I got my arm in there,

[Bradleyrj]

I LIKE TATER TOTS

[snakeplissken]

Originally Posted by Matts94Z28

At what point does this become slander?

Libel is written defamation of character. Slander is verbal defamation of character.

Truth is an absolute defense to both.

[CHEVYMAN434]

Originally Posted by ShawnBoyMoody

If you quit bitching Ill come fix the shit myself after work. You say you dont name names but everyone knows who you are talking about. I asked you nicely as a friend to ease up and you continue the bashing daily on facebook.

Well,if you really want to help,i still need help on my car.....The engine needs to come out and find what was broken...I am having a shop built and should be done end of next week. Have a brand new ben-pak drive on also...So if you want to help someone,please come help me pull the motor and fix the big oops...Hopefully it not real bad and a simple fix,but has never been right since it injested oil on the dyno...So if you can help i will call RPM and tell them to stop workin on it,cause this double paying is KILLING ME....

[KRYPTONITE]

Originally Posted by ShawnBoyMoody

Again if I was screwed as bad as you say you were I would drag my shit back there and make them fix the issues...

I have to say, Im not taking sides by all means, but if I got screwed I damn sure not gonna take it back, thats stupid, Not talking about what they did!! But a shop should produce outstanding work with little come backs, Come backs hurt everyone, business, emply. and customers, the way I look at it is, Do it right the first time, stick to your word or dont do it at all!!

[MonteC]

Originally Posted by KRYPTONITE

I have to say, Im not taking sides by all means, but if I got screwed I damn sure not gonna take it back, thats stupid, Not talking about what they did!! But a shop should produce outstanding work with little come backs, Come backs hurt everyone, business, emply. and customers, the way I look at it is, Do it right the first time, stick to your word or dont do it at all!!

Go open a shop then come back and talk to me.

[KRYPTONITE]

Originally Posted by MonteC

Go open a shop then come back and talk to me.

Explain to me what that is suppose to mean!!

[jmd]

i have delt with bob's masterbend and griffin transmission. they did excellent work. i do give shops credit. tks guys

[MonteC]

Originally Posted by KRYPTONITE

Explain to me what that is suppose to mean!!

What im sayin is its easy to say do this or do that. Yeah of course we as shop owners try to make everyone happy, and have very little comeback. Not everything you do is going to leave your shop perfect. Or it may be before it leaves and them something happens. Mistakes will be made, and problems will come up, its unavoidable.

So what im telling you is, go walk a mile in someone elses shoes. Go open a performance shop, not in your back yard, a real shop with overhead, and employees. Try keeping the bills paid, ordering parts, talking with customers, keeping good employees and making sure they stay happy. Go do that and then come back and tell me how you feel.

[GreebeanZ28]

Good point there Robert.