Dyno day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 4

DolSVT00 · 05-05-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisheltra

Yeah I can see why youd be disappointed.

Heck Chris you made better numbers on a mustang dyno than you did on a dynojet........ Not all dyno's are created equal, and all of them are printer bullshit generators.

Track numbers FTMFW......................

DolSVT00 · 05-05-2009, 05:57 PM

Baby jesus cries when he see's this http://www.mustangdyne.com/MDAWD500DE.htm

05Saleen · 05-05-2009, 05:58 PM

What happened to the old fashioned butt dyno?

chrisheltra · 05-05-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 05Saleen

What happened to the old fashioned butt dyno?

Is this the one your referring to?

http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main...5e6b6238f4bea3

Good price too.

jmd · 05-05-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisheltra

Yeah I can see why youd be disappointed.

only reason i posted it was because that engine set up is gone now. i lost the original engine on the showzone dyno. i know that dyno well.

Pesce Nero · 05-05-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DolSVT00

Heck Chris you made better numbers on a mustang dyno than you did on a dynojet........ Not all dyno's are created equal, and all of them are printer bullshit generators.

Track numbers FTMFW......................

pardon me for being stupid, but i see Chris' numbers on 2 different dynojets being very close yet his number on 2 different mustangs are on the far ends of the spectrum.

i'm a little confused about why your so proud of the show zones dyno that seems to spit out low/not correct numbers.

DolSVT00 · 05-05-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SIXPACKGUT

pardon me for being stupid, but i see Chris' numbers on 2 different dynojets being very close yet his number on 2 different mustangs are on the far ends of the spectrum.

i'm a little confused about why your so proud of the show zones dyno that seems to spit out low/not correct numbers.

What makes you think they are incorrect, because their low? And what makes you think that the dynojet is soo correct, because their high?

Nither mean a bag of shit at the strip.

Pesce Nero · 05-05-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DolSVT00

What makes you think they are incorrect, because their low? And what makes you think that the dynojet is soo correct, because their high?

Nither mean a bag of shit at the strip.

well because chris has been on 2 mustangs and they are uncapable of producing the same result yet 2 different dynojets produced the same result.

and yes it does matter at the strip, an adjusable chassis will get set up different on a low hp car than a high one. so for example, a guy puts a turbo on his 4 link race car. he dynos it on a dyno that spits out a low number. chassis man sets up a short high IC and takes it to the track and the car drags the back bumper and slams to the ground brealkin everything all because of a dyno that is not calibrated correctly.

DolSVT00 · 05-05-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SIXPACKGUT

well because chris has been on 2 mustangs and they are uncapable of producing the same result yet 2 different dynojets produced the same result.

and yes it does matter at the strip, an adjusable chassis will get set up different on a low hp car than a high one. so for example, a guy puts a turbo on his 4 link race car. he dynos it on a dyno that spits out a low number. chassis man sets up a short high IC and takes it to the track and the car drags the back bumper and slams to the ground brealkin everything all because of a dyno that is not calibrated correctly.

Heres a better scenario, man takes car to dynojet to tune and set air fuel, man makes 2 second pull to red line and gets a great air fuel, man loads up car and takes to track, man makes pass down 1/4 mile where car see's big load, man's motor destroys itself because it went lean from tuning on dynojet with no load. Man has to spend 10,000$ on new motor.

Pesce Nero · 05-05-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DolSVT00

Heres a better scenario, man takes car to dynojet to tune and set air fuel, man makes 2 second pull to red line and gets a great air fuel, man loads up car and takes to track, man makes pass down 1/4 mile where car see's big load, man's motor destroys itself because it went lean from tuning on dynojet with no load. Man has to spend 10,000$ on new motor.

yes, i can see how that would be important on a turbo car. thats a good point.

Pesce Nero · 05-05-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DolSVT00

Heres a better scenario, man takes car to dynojet to tune and set air fuel, man makes 2 second pull to red line and gets a great air fuel, man loads up car and takes to track, man makes pass down 1/4 mile where car see's big load, man's motor destroys itself because it went lean from tuning on dynojet with no load. Man has to spend 10,000$ on new motor.

ok, im confused again, will a turbo car build more boost on a mustang dyno than a dynojet?

DolSVT00 · 05-05-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SIXPACKGUT

ok, im confused again, will a turbo car build more boost on a mustang dyno than a dynojet?

No idea, but I would think it would take longer to build peak boost as if it were running at the track because of the resistance put on the drive train by load imposed by an eddy current power absorber.

chrisheltra · 05-05-2009, 07:50 PM

What hes saying is on every dyno we have been on it was a quick 5 second or better pull. On show zones it is much longer because there is more load. At the track your run is longer than 5 seconds due to the load.

All hes saying is the show zone seems to be much more accurate replicating street/strip load. That doesnt mean the numbers are correct. Remember all a dyno is is a tuning tool and a BS number generator. The latter is much more important.

DolSVT00 · 05-05-2009, 07:57 PM

These are (similarly) powered trucks

Dynojet http://www.carolinahorsepower.com/Daryl/2.wmv

Mustang http://www.carolinahorsepower.com/Mike/q161.wmv

Take it for what its worth.

05Saleen · 05-05-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisheltra

Is this the one your referring to?

http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main...5e6b6238f4bea3

Good price too.

NO Chris. That is not what I was refering too! Funny though!

LXtasy · 05-05-2009, 08:14 PM

Wow if showzones dyno reads LOWER than the normal mustang dyno. Wonder what numbers really good have been. Hmmmmm

Pesce Nero · 05-05-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DolSVT00

These are (similarly) powered trucks

Dynojet http://www.carolinahorsepower.com/Daryl/2.wmv

Mustang http://www.carolinahorsepower.com/Mike/q161.wmv

Take it for what its worth.

do you know the et and mph for those trucks?

DolSVT00 · 05-05-2009, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LXtasy

Wow if showzones dyno reads LOWER than the normal mustang dyno. Wonder what numbers really good have been. Hmmmmm

I wouldn't say that it reads lower than a normal mustang dyno or any dyno, if there was any possible way to compare show zones dyno to another dyno I would never compare it to Amazon's mustang dyno it read higher than the dynojet when he was much slower at the track. Its well known that Amazon messes with the numbers so their customers don't walk away dissapointed. Thats a mute point, and a testament to the fact that mustang numbers can be fuged, i will never deny that.

My numbers have alwayse been consistant at show zone and i've made more that 12 pulls there in the last 2 years.

DolSVT00 · 05-05-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SIXPACKGUT

do you know the et and mph for those trucks?

They have them posted, I believe their both around 6.7ish at 102-104 in the 1/8th. I dont think Mike has made it to the 1/4 since he has gotten it running right.

also they both weighed in somewhere around 4700-4800lbs

Pesce Nero · 05-05-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DolSVT00

They have them posted, I believe their both around 6.7ish at 102-104 in the 1/8th. I dont think Mike has made it to the 1/4 since he has gotten it running right.

also they both weighed in somewhere around 4700-4800lbs

well here is what the wallace calc says
4700 6.70 at 103

Your HP computed from your vehicle ET is 790.91 flywheel HP and 711.819 rear wheel HP.
Your HP computed from your vehicle MPH is 798.12 flywheel HP and 718.308 rear wheel HP.

most guys say this is very accurate and it has been very accurate for my car

05-05-2009, 05:58 PM	#63
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05-05-2009, 07:50 PM	#73
chrisheltra Neo is Jesus Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 13,265	What hes saying is on every dyno we have been on it was a quick 5 second or better pull. On show zones it is much longer because there is more load. At the track your run is longer than 5 seconds due to the load. All hes saying is the show zone seems to be much more accurate replicating street/strip load. That doesnt mean the numbers are correct. Remember all a dyno is is a tuning tool and a BS number generator. The latter is much more important. __________________ Gap A Hoe Racing

05-05-2009, 08:14 PM	#76
LXtasy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Summerville, SC Posts: 9,564	Wow if showzones dyno reads LOWER than the normal mustang dyno. Wonder what numbers really good have been. Hmmmmm __________________

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DolSVT00 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Goose Creek Posts: 3,913	Baby jesus cries when he see's this http://www.mustangdyne.com/MDAWD500DE.htm

05-05-2009, 07:57 PM	#74
DolSVT00 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Goose Creek Posts: 3,913	These are (similarly) powered trucks Dynojet http://www.carolinahorsepower.com/Daryl/2.wmv Mustang http://www.carolinahorsepower.com/Mike/q161.wmv Take it for what its worth.