need some help with a S-10

EDMUND FLASH · 02-22-2010, 11:16 AM

ok guys'' i have joined the bowtie gang'' i got a 84 ex cab S10 with the V8 kit in it already'
is there a stie to find bolt on parts, or books and other stuff for this truck''
and it has a two peace drive shaft and can you race with this or is there away i can put a one peace drive shaft in the truck''
i plan to bracket race the truck and need some info on any tricks to get the truck ready'''

Illusions · 02-22-2010, 11:20 AM

www.jagsthatrun.com has the conversion parts. Here's another good site for s10 racers we belong to. www.s10racer.com there are a lot of very knowledgeable people in the s10 drag racing world on that site. There is also v8s10.org also.

a one piece driveshaft from an 80s fullsize chevy truck two wheel drive long box reg cab will fit. The 7.5 10 bolt will not take too much punishment either. I've read the 9" rear from a 70's bronco is suppose to fit too. might be a little hard to find one of those. you would just have to get the axles drilled for the gm pattern and a different offset in the wheels. You can go the 8.8 from an explorer route too like I did. There are a lot more of those available. They come in 3.73 and 4.10 limited slip, 31 spline axles from the factory

EDMUND FLASH · 02-22-2010, 12:05 PM

thanks'' for all the help'
hope to catch ya' at the track''

fink406 · 02-22-2010, 12:30 PM

i have one of those 80s full size truck drive shafts if you need it..

EDMUND FLASH · 02-22-2010, 12:51 PM

thanks''
i have a longtail 350 turbo trans and a powerglide trans'
would the longtail fit'' or better to use the powerglide'''''

EDMUND FLASH · 02-22-2010, 12:52 PM

fink406' where are you at in case i need that shaft'''

Illusions · 02-22-2010, 12:53 PM

joint and clutch off cross county road can modify the driveshaft and balance it it needed.

LXtasy · 02-22-2010, 07:49 PM

What motor setup do you plan on going with?

www.v8s10.org
www.s10racer.com

Search there. TONS of information.

BTW, s-10's are the devil and be prepared to say new words

BigdaddyDupree · 02-22-2010, 10:59 PM

i love my s-10

EDMUND FLASH · 02-23-2010, 12:47 AM

a 305 V8 with a mild cam' and i have a longtail 350 turbo and a powerglide trans'

LXtasy · 02-23-2010, 07:51 PM

If you do not have the motor already, look for a 350 and go from there. Unless you don't care and want to make a cruiser than 305. But IMO, JUST MY OPINION, you would be pissing in the wind with a 305, especially when you add up the money to do one and a stock 4.3 with exhaust could tangle with it.

If it is a 1st gen you might want to change the rear gear out at least because most likely you will have a 3.42 but you could have a 3.08 based gear which would suck.

EDMUND FLASH · 02-24-2010, 02:20 AM

thanks guys''
i,ve checked out some stuff on putting a 8,8 ford rear under the truck''
and some tricks on a one peace drive shaft'
i might go with a 350'' i have one with a messed up cly, from a dropped vavle ''
its just the 305 didnt need anything done to it'
what is working better now' slicks'' or street slicks ' - what size works good under the back fenders'''

Illusions · 02-24-2010, 08:15 AM

Until you get into the higher hp/tq range the MT ET street radial would be all you'll need. Size would depending on the power you have and the gearing. You do not want to bog with a 275/60-15 if you only need a 275/50-15 to get you down the track. For traction I would go with some "Daggers". They are Caltrax knock offs that are manufactured by a friend of ours and owner of the s10racer.com site, Diabolical Performance.

The 8.8 is not a hard swap to do. The rear is 3 inches wider than the s10's but that can be taken up in backspacing in the wheels. My rear wheels are 15x10 with 7.6 BS with 275/50-15's and still clear the spring perch and do not stick out. The 8.8 is also disc brakes in the newer models and have 3.73 or 4.10's in a 31 spline limited slip. You will just need an adapter that costs $2 from advanced auto to hook the brake line up. Grab the driveshaft too. you'll need the mating flange at the diff. and there is an adapter u-joint. I placed all the part numbers on s10Racer.com site.

Here is some info on 8.8's
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/Axles.html

You will notice that some 8.8's in the rangers have 28 spline axles and others have 31 spline. do a lot of reading up on the rear you want to go hunting for. Then hit LKQ they had a bunch of explorers the last time I was there.

It all depends on your goals.

EDMUND FLASH · 02-24-2010, 09:39 AM

sounds'' like they will see me alot down at PULL-A-PART over in columbia real soon'
come on uncel sam'' hurry up with my check'''

WWhittle · 02-24-2010, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Illusions

Until you get into the higher hp/tq range the MT ET street radial would be all you'll need. Size would depending on the power you have and the gearing. You do not want to bog with a 275/60-15 if you only need a 275/50-15 to get you down the track. For traction I would go with some "Daggers". They are Caltrax knock offs that are manufactured by a friend of ours and owner of the s10racer.com site, Diabolical Performance.

The 8.8 is not a hard swap to do. The rear is 3 inches wider than the s10's but that can be taken up in backspacing in the wheels. My rear wheels are 15x10 with 7.6 BS with 275/50-15's and still clear the spring perch and do not stick out. The 8.8 is also disc brakes in the newer models and have 3.73 or 4.10's in a 31 spline limited slip. You will just need an adapter that costs $2 from advanced auto to hook the brake line up. Grab the driveshaft too. you'll need the mating flange at the diff. and there is an adapter u-joint. I placed all the part numbers on s10Racer.com site.

Here is some info on 8.8's
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/Axles.html

You will notice that some 8.8's in the rangers have 28 spline axles and others have 31 spline. do a lot of reading up on the rear you want to go hunting for. Then hit LKQ they had a bunch of explorers the last time I was there.

It all depends on your goals.

2500 hp cars on radials.

Illusions · 02-24-2010, 04:09 PM

See what I mean....lol

EDMUND FLASH · 02-28-2010, 11:24 AM

ok'' now on to the transmission''
i have a powerglide trans' and a longtail 350 turbo trans' from a 76 c/10 truck
what trans would be better for racing''

LXtasy · 02-28-2010, 11:29 AM

either will be fine. I would go 350 if I wanted to drive it any on the street. IMO, I would only go PG if you are going to run a numerical big gear and have some power anyways. But on a mild setup, I would go 350. Thats me. Everyone is different

EDMUND FLASH · 02-28-2010, 11:31 AM

ok' i have my shopping list''
350 motor''
8.8 ford rear end''
mt- drag radials''
long driveshaft ''
transmission -- ???

LXtasy · 02-28-2010, 11:57 AM

I say 350 for now. KEEP the PG until you NEED IT. Get the 350 built by montec. When you destroy it than go PG. But I believe with your setup you will be fine for now on the th350

02-22-2010, 11:16 AM	#1
EDMUND FLASH Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: EDMUND SC. down hwy, 302 outside pelion sc. Posts: 372	need some help with a S-10 ok guys'' i have joined the bowtie gang'' i got a 84 ex cab S10 with the V8 kit in it already' is there a stie to find bolt on parts, or books and other stuff for this truck'' and it has a two peace drive shaft and can you race with this or is there away i can put a one peace drive shaft in the truck'' i plan to bracket race the truck and need some info on any tricks to get the truck ready''' __________________ ''THE EDMUND FLASH RIDES AGAIN '' 1974 GMC Truck ( BRICK IN THE WIND ) Bracket class' i,m a little guy hiding from the BIG GUNS out there'

02-22-2010, 11:20 AM	#2
Illusions Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: In the Pits Posts: 2,247	www.jagsthatrun.com has the conversion parts. Here's another good site for s10 racers we belong to. www.s10racer.com there are a lot of very knowledgeable people in the s10 drag racing world on that site. There is also v8s10.org also. a one piece driveshaft from an 80s fullsize chevy truck two wheel drive long box reg cab will fit. The 7.5 10 bolt will not take too much punishment either. I've read the 9" rear from a 70's bronco is suppose to fit too. might be a little hard to find one of those. you would just have to get the axles drilled for the gm pattern and a different offset in the wheels. You can go the 8.8 from an explorer route too like I did. There are a lot more of those available. They come in 3.73 and 4.10 limited slip, 31 spline axles from the factory __________________ Illusions Grafix A Pair of "Jackstand" 01 Xtreme Blazers Last edited by Illusions; 02-22-2010 at 11:50 AM. Reason: added additional information instead of a new post

02-22-2010, 12:05 PM	#3
EDMUND FLASH Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: EDMUND SC. down hwy, 302 outside pelion sc. Posts: 372	thanks'' for all the help' hope to catch ya' at the track'' __________________ ''THE EDMUND FLASH RIDES AGAIN '' 1974 GMC Truck ( BRICK IN THE WIND ) Bracket class' i,m a little guy hiding from the BIG GUNS out there'

02-22-2010, 12:51 PM	#5
EDMUND FLASH Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: EDMUND SC. down hwy, 302 outside pelion sc. Posts: 372	thanks'' i have a longtail 350 turbo trans and a powerglide trans' would the longtail fit'' or better to use the powerglide''''' __________________ ''THE EDMUND FLASH RIDES AGAIN '' 1974 GMC Truck ( BRICK IN THE WIND ) Bracket class' i,m a little guy hiding from the BIG GUNS out there'

02-22-2010, 12:52 PM	#6
EDMUND FLASH Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: EDMUND SC. down hwy, 302 outside pelion sc. Posts: 372	fink406' where are you at in case i need that shaft''' __________________ ''THE EDMUND FLASH RIDES AGAIN '' 1974 GMC Truck ( BRICK IN THE WIND ) Bracket class' i,m a little guy hiding from the BIG GUNS out there'

02-22-2010, 12:30 PM	#4
fink406 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 546	i have one of those 80s full size truck drive shafts if you need it..

02-22-2010, 12:53 PM	#7
Illusions Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: In the Pits Posts: 2,247	joint and clutch off cross county road can modify the driveshaft and balance it it needed. __________________ Illusions Grafix A Pair of "Jackstand" 01 Xtreme Blazers

02-22-2010, 07:49 PM	#8
LXtasy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Summerville, SC Posts: 9,564	What motor setup do you plan on going with? www.v8s10.org www.s10racer.com Search there. TONS of information. BTW, s-10's are the devil and be prepared to say new words __________________ Last edited by LXtasy; 02-22-2010 at 08:05 PM.

02-22-2010, 10:59 PM	#9
BigdaddyDupree Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: MACEDONIA Posts: 4,967	i love my s-10 __________________ . What you wanna do?

02-23-2010, 12:47 AM	#10
EDMUND FLASH Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: EDMUND SC. down hwy, 302 outside pelion sc. Posts: 372	a 305 V8 with a mild cam' and i have a longtail 350 turbo and a powerglide trans' __________________ ''THE EDMUND FLASH RIDES AGAIN '' 1974 GMC Truck ( BRICK IN THE WIND ) Bracket class' i,m a little guy hiding from the BIG GUNS out there'

02-23-2010, 07:51 PM	#11
LXtasy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Summerville, SC Posts: 9,564	If you do not have the motor already, look for a 350 and go from there. Unless you don't care and want to make a cruiser than 305. But IMO, JUST MY OPINION, you would be pissing in the wind with a 305, especially when you add up the money to do one and a stock 4.3 with exhaust could tangle with it. If it is a 1st gen you might want to change the rear gear out at least because most likely you will have a 3.42 but you could have a 3.08 based gear which would suck. __________________

02-24-2010, 02:20 AM	#12
EDMUND FLASH Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: EDMUND SC. down hwy, 302 outside pelion sc. Posts: 372	thanks guys'' i,ve checked out some stuff on putting a 8,8 ford rear under the truck'' and some tricks on a one peace drive shaft' i might go with a 350'' i have one with a messed up cly, from a dropped vavle '' its just the 305 didnt need anything done to it' what is working better now' slicks'' or street slicks ' - what size works good under the back fenders''' __________________ ''THE EDMUND FLASH RIDES AGAIN '' 1974 GMC Truck ( BRICK IN THE WIND ) Bracket class' i,m a little guy hiding from the BIG GUNS out there'

02-24-2010, 08:15 AM	#13
Illusions Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: In the Pits Posts: 2,247	Until you get into the higher hp/tq range the MT ET street radial would be all you'll need. Size would depending on the power you have and the gearing. You do not want to bog with a 275/60-15 if you only need a 275/50-15 to get you down the track. For traction I would go with some "Daggers". They are Caltrax knock offs that are manufactured by a friend of ours and owner of the s10racer.com site, Diabolical Performance. The 8.8 is not a hard swap to do. The rear is 3 inches wider than the s10's but that can be taken up in backspacing in the wheels. My rear wheels are 15x10 with 7.6 BS with 275/50-15's and still clear the spring perch and do not stick out. The 8.8 is also disc brakes in the newer models and have 3.73 or 4.10's in a 31 spline limited slip. You will just need an adapter that costs $2 from advanced auto to hook the brake line up. Grab the driveshaft too. you'll need the mating flange at the diff. and there is an adapter u-joint. I placed all the part numbers on s10Racer.com site. Here is some info on 8.8's http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/Axles.html You will notice that some 8.8's in the rangers have 28 spline axles and others have 31 spline. do a lot of reading up on the rear you want to go hunting for. Then hit LKQ they had a bunch of explorers the last time I was there. It all depends on your goals. __________________ Illusions Grafix A Pair of "Jackstand" 01 Xtreme Blazers

02-24-2010, 09:39 AM	#14
EDMUND FLASH Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: EDMUND SC. down hwy, 302 outside pelion sc. Posts: 372	sounds'' like they will see me alot down at PULL-A-PART over in columbia real soon' come on uncel sam'' hurry up with my check''' __________________ ''THE EDMUND FLASH RIDES AGAIN '' 1974 GMC Truck ( BRICK IN THE WIND ) Bracket class' i,m a little guy hiding from the BIG GUNS out there'

02-24-2010, 04:09 PM	#16
Illusions Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: In the Pits Posts: 2,247	See what I mean....lol __________________ Illusions Grafix A Pair of "Jackstand" 01 Xtreme Blazers

02-28-2010, 11:24 AM	#17
EDMUND FLASH Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: EDMUND SC. down hwy, 302 outside pelion sc. Posts: 372	ok'' now on to the transmission'' i have a powerglide trans' and a longtail 350 turbo trans' from a 76 c/10 truck what trans would be better for racing'' __________________ ''THE EDMUND FLASH RIDES AGAIN '' 1974 GMC Truck ( BRICK IN THE WIND ) Bracket class' i,m a little guy hiding from the BIG GUNS out there'

02-28-2010, 11:29 AM	#18
LXtasy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Summerville, SC Posts: 9,564	either will be fine. I would go 350 if I wanted to drive it any on the street. IMO, I would only go PG if you are going to run a numerical big gear and have some power anyways. But on a mild setup, I would go 350. Thats me. Everyone is different __________________

02-28-2010, 11:31 AM	#19
EDMUND FLASH Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: EDMUND SC. down hwy, 302 outside pelion sc. Posts: 372	ok' i have my shopping list'' 350 motor'' 8.8 ford rear end'' mt- drag radials'' long driveshaft '' transmission -- ??? __________________ ''THE EDMUND FLASH RIDES AGAIN '' 1974 GMC Truck ( BRICK IN THE WIND ) Bracket class' i,m a little guy hiding from the BIG GUNS out there'

02-28-2010, 11:57 AM	#20
LXtasy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Summerville, SC Posts: 9,564	I say 350 for now. KEEP the PG until you NEED IT. Get the 350 built by montec. When you destroy it than go PG. But I believe with your setup you will be fine for now on the th350 __________________