Should I swich to a Glide? - Page 2

RobertHolton1 · 04-27-2011, 09:59 AM

i seen a car(wagon) satuday that wouldnt get down the track straight if you pulled it with a tractor on slicks, put the radials on and lifted the tires about 2 ft off the ground and rode on out straight as an arrow

RobertHolton1 · 04-27-2011, 10:31 AM

i think you will definately go faster with the powerglide with your set up...

White00gt · 04-27-2011, 11:40 AM

you don't want to run 275's... send them to me...

White00gt · 04-27-2011, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertHolton1

i seen a car(wagon) satuday that wouldnt get down the track straight if you pulled it with a tractor on slicks, put the radials on and lifted the tires about 2 ft off the ground and rode on out straight as an arrow

wonder what was up with that....10yr old slicks probably.

Mike · 04-27-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by White00gt

wonder what was up with that....10yr old slicks probably.

+1

It's amazing what happens to 1 year old tires stored in the wrong conditions. Baked in the Sun for a few weeks will ruin any tire.

OUTLAW · 04-27-2011, 12:27 PM

275 you can do it

ShawnBoyMoody · 04-27-2011, 02:03 PM

C4 = wheelstands and you know I love me some wheelstands lol. Seriously tho every ford guy ends up going to a glide eventually. The real question becomes why didn't you bring this up BEFORE I dropped 1350 bucks on my C4? I coulda just bought yours lol.

ShawnBoyMoody · 04-27-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 1iron

Sorry, my bad. It won't come out until it or something else breaks.

All good. I just got mine back from Gerald. I'm ready to feel um lol.

RobertHolton1 · 04-27-2011, 02:24 PM

1350 $$$ HOLEY COW Could have fixed you a glide for that

ShawnBoyMoody · 04-27-2011, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertHolton1

1350 $$$ HOLEY COW Could have fixed you a glide for that

Maybe. Good parts cost money tho and no sense in skimping out. I think Ill have a good strong tranny that I can grow with. One day I want a motor like Brandon's and you need good parts behind a powerhouse like that.

ForceFed4g63 · 04-27-2011, 03:57 PM

Damn I wouldn't think $1350 would be a lot for a tranny lol. Used to paying twice that for a decent built one.

MonteC · 04-27-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ForceFed4g63

Damn I wouldn't think $1350 would be a lot for a tranny lol. Used to paying twice that for a decent built one.

Its not, thats a good price for a PROPERLY built c4.

MonteC · 04-27-2011, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertHolton1

1350 $$$ HOLEY COW Could have fixed you a glide for that

Just wondering, who is building your transmissions? Your dad still doing it? I thought Ive heard David was messing with some of the older stuff.

WTFWSAT · 04-27-2011, 05:02 PM

Aod!!!

White00gt · 04-27-2011, 05:23 PM

^^ AOD is a good trans but the 2.40 vs the 2.46? of the C4 isn't really any change.

a 2.10, 400 or 1.80 glide are the tickets, but those gear sets along are around the price you see listed acouple post above.

WWhittle · 04-27-2011, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 1iron

I know what has been done on 275's. I just don't know how to do it. I also don't have the power to go low 5's. The car has been 5.72 and it has a little more power this year.

You learned how to get your car to go down the track on radials with the 3 speed, the powerglide will be a piece of cake.

Darryl Buckner · 04-27-2011, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by WTFWSAT

Aod!!!

+1. Nothing like watching the guys sweat in True Street on the 30 mile trip at 70mph on the open road, and you can just flip a switch for overdrive. Nothing helps a heavy pig like mine more then the 2.84 first gear..

gearmesh, inc. · 04-27-2011, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertHolton1

1350 $$$ HOLEY COW Could have fixed you a glide for that

Good internals for a C-4 can add up some dollars in a sneaky way.

$150 hardened input shaft
$250 6 pinion forward planet
$100 intermediate servo
$300 for manual valve body. Add another $200 or so extra for transbrake.
$90 reinforced forward drum
$60 Raybestos blue clutches for high/rev clutch
=
$950 in parts so far

Add to this a paper/rubber kit, bushings, filter, band, and any other small parts that go into a detail built C-4. Then a little machine work to get 5 clutches to fit in the high clutch without resorting to thin steels that any experienced high performance trans builder knows won't take the heat. Never resort to thin steels on a dynamicly engaged clutch in order to make room for an extra clutch plate/plates.

Oh yea, and don't forget a little labor for the builder.

Once you get your initial hard parts investment over with in a C-4, future freshening up builds will only cost a fraction of the original build, as the good hard parts will already be in there.

freddy231 · 04-28-2011, 12:25 AM

you forgot the 300.00 for the machine shop to cut the planets and hubs so you can roller rize it and get rid of those thrust washers. been building trannys and racing fords for 30 plus years. i got a glide in my toy. but i got a c4 in my street 66 mustang. but it is a street car.

freddy231 · 04-28-2011, 12:31 AM

robert if you really fix a glide for racing 1350 won,t cover everything. you got to have a ultra bell a transbrake input shaft hardened clutch hub double ring servo rabestos clutchs band and o yea you got to find a case to cut up too. and if you going fast you need an aftermarket set of planets

04-27-2011, 11:40 AM	#23
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04-27-2011, 02:03 PM	#27
ShawnBoyMoody Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the lab.... Posts: 8,159	C4 = wheelstands and you know I love me some wheelstands lol. Seriously tho every ford guy ends up going to a glide eventually. The real question becomes why didn't you bring this up BEFORE I dropped 1350 bucks on my C4? I coulda just bought yours lol. __________________ The Krusty Koupe "Luck favors the oblivious, and boy am I lucky!"

04-27-2011, 05:02 PM	#34
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04-27-2011, 05:23 PM	#35
White00gt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: PI, S.C. Posts: 565	^^ AOD is a good trans but the 2.40 vs the 2.46? of the C4 isn't really any change. a 2.10, 400 or 1.80 glide are the tickets, but those gear sets along are around the price you see listed acouple post above. __________________ M. Ragland . Dropbox sign up link +space http://db.tt/9sBmLpl

04-27-2011, 09:59 AM	#21
RobertHolton1 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Moncks Corner Posts: 937	i seen a car(wagon) satuday that wouldnt get down the track straight if you pulled it with a tractor on slicks, put the radials on and lifted the tires about 2 ft off the ground and rode on out straight as an arrow

04-27-2011, 10:31 AM	#22
RobertHolton1 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Moncks Corner Posts: 937	i think you will definately go faster with the powerglide with your set up...

04-27-2011, 12:27 PM	#26
OUTLAW Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 417	275 you can do it

04-27-2011, 02:24 PM	#29
RobertHolton1 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Moncks Corner Posts: 937	1350 $$$ HOLEY COW Could have fixed you a glide for that

04-27-2011, 03:57 PM	#31
ForceFed4g63 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Aiken Posts: 7,002	Damn I wouldn't think $1350 would be a lot for a tranny lol. Used to paying twice that for a decent built one.

04-28-2011, 12:25 AM	#39
freddy231 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: turbeville s, c. Posts: 167	you forgot the 300.00 for the machine shop to cut the planets and hubs so you can roller rize it and get rid of those thrust washers. been building trannys and racing fords for 30 plus years. i got a glide in my toy. but i got a c4 in my street 66 mustang. but it is a street car.

04-28-2011, 12:31 AM	#40
freddy231 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: turbeville s, c. Posts: 167	robert if you really fix a glide for racing 1350 won,t cover everything. you got to have a ultra bell a transbrake input shaft hardened clutch hub double ring servo rabestos clutchs band and o yea you got to find a case to cut up too. and if you going fast you need an aftermarket set of planets