Any track rentals anytime soon?

[chrisheltra]

Or street race. lol

[Illusions]

I believe your already running times for a cage. 7.49 and faster.

[chrisheltra]

Yes or 11.49 in the 1/4 that is why Im asking if there are any track rentals anytime soon. Are you guys gonna put a cage in the blazer?

The next one I know of is during mustang week........

[WWhittle]

Originally Posted by LXtasy

Probably 5k MINIMUM chris. I know for the s-10 supernationals the group contacted many of tracks and that was the starting price.

Ummm, no. Not even close.

We have the track rented Thursday to test a couple grudge cars and do it often.

I won't share what we pay because it may vary from person to person. Let us know what you find out.

[Illusions]

Originally Posted by chrisheltra

Yes or 11.49 in the 1/4 that is why Im asking if there are any track rentals anytime soon. Are you guys gonna put a cage in the blazer?

The next one I know of is during mustang week........

good possibility when we are required to.

Some general rules: these are 2009 but additional rules are at the bottom for 2010. these are NHRA. I will hunt for IHRA and post those too.

-All cars must have a catch can for radiator overflow of at least 1 pint. These must be securely fastened (bolted or clamped). Factory overflow in most late-models is fine.

-Neutral safety switch (again, if using a factory shifter, this should be already installed. Aftermarket shifters will require wiring this in).

-If battery is in the back/trunk (regardless of ET), a secured tray and cutoff switch is required.

-If using Nitrous oxide, the bottle must be securely mounted (no plastic brackets), bottle must be stamped with 1800-lb DOT rating and identified as nitrous oxide. If bottle is located in driver's compartment, it must be equipped with a relief valve and vented outside the compartment. Commercially available thermostatically controlled bottle-type warmers are permitted, all other heating of bottles prohibited (i.e. blow torches).

-Any vehicle using a spool center section requires aftermarket axles with positive retention (c-clip eliminators).

-NHRA national and divisional races require clear glass around the vehicle, subject to check. Local races vary, check with your division or track.

13.99 1/4-mile (8.59 1/8-mile) or quicker:

-A driveshaft safety loop is required when you run slicks (not drag radials or street tires). With street tires or drag radials, no loop is required until 11.49 1/4-mile (7.35 1/8-mile) and faster.

-A helmet (closed face or open) is required with a minimum Snell K98 or M2000/SA2000 rating. Helmets last 12 years from their rating date (example a Snell 2005 would be good until 2017). Shield is not required.

11.99 1/4-mile ( 1/8-mile) or quicker:

-Metal screw-in valve stems required on tubeless tires on all wheels.

11.49 1/4-mile (7.35 1/8-mile) or quicker:

-A 5-point minimum roll bar on a fixed roof car (t-tops okay as well if in place while racing) from 11.49 to 11.00 (7.00 1/8-mile). If the hardtop / t-top car has un-altered floors, firewall and frame rails (wheel tubs are okay), then the 5-point roll bar is good til 10.00 1/4 mile (6.40 1/8-mile). Convertibles require the 5-point bar from 13.49 (8.25 1/8-mile to 11.00 (7.00 1/8-mile). The rollbar must be constructed of minimum 1 ?¥ inch o.d. x .118 inch wall mild steel tubing, or 1 ?¥ x .083 chrome moly tubing. The roll bar can be bolted or welded to the floor, see diagram for specs. Roll bar must be padded anywhere the driver's helmet may contact it while in the driving position.

The 5-points are:
-Main hoop; 2 "down bars" (bars that go from the main hoop rearward to the trunk floor/hatch area. These can be straight or bent like a "package tray" style, search for photos); Welded crossbar for belts (can't be removable); Driver side door bar (can be a swing-out. Many put a passenger's side bar in as well (6-point) because it strengthens the car on both sides, but if you have subframe connectors the difference may be minimal).

-Protective Clothing (SFI jacket with a 3.2A/1 rating, no expiration date)

-5 point harness (up to date, they must be replaced or re-certified every 2 years)

-SFI-approved flywheel and/or clutch (no expiration date)

-Screw-in valve stems

-No tint allowed on window except factory

10.99 1/4-mile (6.99 1/8-mile) or quicker:

-5-point roll bar is still okay to 10.00 1/4-mile (6.40 18-mile) in hardtop / t-top with un-altered floors, firewall and frame rails (wheel tubs are okay). If the floor and/or firewall has been modified, then a full roll cage is required beginning at a 10.99 e.t. or any vehicle running 135 mph or faster (regardless of e.t.). The roll cage must be constructed of minimum 1 5/8 o.d.x .118 mild steel tubing, or 1 5/8 x .083 chrome moly tubing. Roll cage must be padded anywhere the driver's helmet may contact it while in the driving position.

-Convertibles require full roll cage at 10.99 and quicker.

-aftermarket axles with positive retention (c-clip eliminators)

-Transmission shield SFI Spec 4.1 at 10.99 and quicker or 135 mph and quicker (blanket is okay, no expiration date)

-Harmonic Balancer SFI Spec 18.1 (no expiration date)


9.99 1/4-mile (6.39 1/8-mile)/ 135 mph or quicker:

-Roll cage is required on all vehicles at 9.99 and quicker or any vehicle running 135 mph or faster (regardless of e.t.). The roll cage must be constructed of minimum 1 5/8 o.d.x .118 mild steel tubing, or 1 5/8 x .083 chrome moly tubing. Roll cage must also be certified by NHRA every 3 years, and have a serialized sticker affixed prior to participation. The cage must be padded anywhere the driver's helmet may contact it while in the driving position. This style of cage is good til 8.50 1/4-mile times, then a funny car style cage is required.

-Window net required (can be ribbon or mesh, no altering allowed unless done by manufacturer. No expiration date per 2008 NHRA rule book, but some have said 2 years on expiration/re-cert. Check with your local track or division).

-NHRA competition driver's license required, done by car designation (dragster, door car, etc). A physical, 2 NHRA licensed drivers to witness/sign your forms and minimum 6 runs are required.

-Flexplate SFI 29.1 and shield SFI 30.1 required (no expiration dates listed, but I believe the shield is 5 years)

-Protective Clothing (SFI jacket and pants with a 3.2A/5 rating, gloves and neck collar, no expiration date)

-Battery cutoff (regardless or whether battery is still up front or relocated to rear of vehicle)

-A full-face helmet is required with a minimum Snell K98 or M2000/SA2000 rating. Helmets last 12 years from their rating date (example a Snell 2005 would be good until 2017). Shield is permitted but not required. This rule posting is as it applies to cars like ours (closed body type). For open cars a different helmet ruling is required.

-A engine diaper is required at NHRA national and divisional races, local races vary, check with your division or track.

Parachutes:

-Required at 150 mph or faster, no matter the e.t.


Rule change 2010......

Just announced NHRA Safety Rules additions for 2010 : 1. To prevent transmission leaks, all cars running 10.99 seconds or quicker must have an NHRA-accepted locking-type dipstick in the transmission. 2. To improve the strength-mounting point of parachutes on all vehicles running more than 150 mph, parachutes must have their own independent mounting sleeved half-inch-minimum steel bolts...

[Illusions]

IHRA states a car faster than 9.00 needs a cert'd CAGE. also says 10.00-11.49 you need a roll BAR. these are obviously 1/4 mile times not 8th... so I'm good.

Here is a link to the IHRA Rule Book for 2010
IHRA Rule Book

Pg 80

10.00 to 11.49 1/4 mile
6.50 to 7.49 1/8 mile
In addition to the following rules, also see IHRA Summit Sportsman Safety and General
Rules.
AXLES: Aftermarket axles and axle retention device mandatory on entries running 10.99
and quicker 1/4 mile or 6.99 and quicker 1/8 mile.
BRAKES: Minimum of two rear-wheel hydraulic brakes required. Full body cars must
have four wheel brakes. Entries with two wheel brakes require parachute.
DRIVELINE: 1 Drive shaft loop mandatory.
DRIVER RESTRAINT SYSTEM: Must meet SFI 16.1 within 2 year expiration from date
of manufacture. See General Regulations.
FIRE EXTINGUISHERS: Properly secured fire extinguisher is required on all closed body
cars.
FLYWHEEL/CLUTCH: SFI 6.1. Flywheel shield, mandatory and clutch, pressure plate
and flywheel meeting SFI 1.1
FLEX PLATE: SFI 29.1 mandatory if vehicle exceeds 135 mph.
FRAME: See General Regulations.
FUEL SYSTEM: Gasoline, alcohol and propane accepted. All fuel tank filler necks
located inside trunk must have filler neck vented to outside of body. All batteries, fuel
lines, fuel pumps or filler necks located inside trunk must be isolated from the driver’s
compartment gas lines must be located outside driver’s compartment. Fuel tanks not to
be higher than top of rear tires. Fuel cell recommended.
HARMONIC BALANCER: SFI 18.1 balancer required on entries running 10.99 and
quicker or 6.99 and quicker 1/8 mile.
HELMET: SN 95 or newer or SFI 31.1A, 31.2A, 41.1A or 41.2A mandatory. See General
Regulations.
MASTER CUTOFF: See General Regulations.
PROTECTIVE CLOTHING: Minimum, SFI 3.2A-5 jacket on open bodied entries.
Minimum 3.2A-1 jacket on closed body entries. Arm restraints are required on all open
bodied cars. Minimum SFI 3.3-1 gloves on open bodied entries.
ROLL CAGE/ROLL BAR: Roll cage is mandatory if entry has an altered floor or firewall,
or if vehicle exceeds 135 mph. On all other full bodied applications, a six point roll bar
is mandatory. A roll cage is mandatory on all convertibles running 10.99 or quicker 1/4
or 6.99 or quicker 1/8 mile. See General Regulations.
78 IHRA
TRANSMISSION SHIELD: SFI 4.1 mandatory on all automatic transmissions equipped
entries running 10.99 and quicker 1/4 mile or 6.99 and quicker 1/8 mile.
WHEEL BASE: Minimum: 90“ unless car has original engine. Maximum wheel base
variation from left to right: 1”. Minimum wheel base for dragsters is 125”.

11.50 to 13.49 1/4 mile
7.50 to 9.00 1/8 mile
In addition to the following rules, also see IHRA Summit Sportsman Safety and General
Rules. Dragsters are prohibited in this section.
BODY: Mandatory.
BRAKES: Required. Minimum of 2 rear wheel brakes required.
DRIVELINE: Driveshaft loop required on any vehicle which uses racing slicks. See
General Regulations.
DRIVER: Must be in stock location. Driver’s seat may be moved a maximum of 10”
rearward.
FENDERS: Exact duplicates of stock fenders in fiberglass permitted. Rear fenders may
be trimmed for tire clearance. All fenders must have the edge re-rolled or beaded if
altered.
FRONT OVER HANG: No item or equipment may be added to the front which will add
to the overall length of the vehicle.
FUEL SYSTEM: Gasoline, alcohol and propane accepted. Tank must be vented to
outside of vehicle. Gas line must be located outside driver’s compartment.
HELMET: SN 90 or newer mandatory.
HOOD: Mandatory.
MASTER CUTOFF: See General Regulations.
ROLL BAR/ROLL CAGE: A minimum of a 6 point roll bar is mandatory on all
convertibles running 11.00 to 13.49 1/4 mile and 8.25 or quicker 1/8 mile. A roll cage
is mandatory on any entry that exceeds 135 mph. See General Regulations.
STREET EQUIPMENT: One working tail light required.
TRANSMISSION SHIELD: Automatic: It is recommended that cars with modified
automatic transmissions, or converters, have a transmission blanket or shield meeting
SFI 4.1.
WHEELBASE: Minimum 90” unless car has original engine and OEM is shorter.
Wheelbase variation, left to right 1” maximum.
WINDSHIELD/WINDOWS: Windows may be replaced with 1/8” minimum Lexan.
Windshields and windows must be clear except for factory-tinted safety glass. Windows
must be closed during competition, need not be operable. Decals permitted on rear

[chrisheltra]

Haha I saw how it looked on sat even with you guy having problems and you guys need a roll bar now.

Your lucky though you dont have to worry with going through the back window with bars.

[Illusions]

we can keep ours all tucked away inside when we need it, worst part is the added weight even with chromemoly

[BAD BOB]

Originally Posted by Red99T/A

wasn't it you at the track saturday outrunning most everybody?

thats bc i wasnt there

[chrisheltra]

Originally Posted by BAD BOB

thats bc i wasnt there

I already said I didnt run any race cars.

[BAD BOB]

street car and i run on radials! drive it back and forth to work all the time

[soccerspike15]

Originally Posted by chrisheltra

I already said I didnt run any race cars.

thought you ran the blazer?

[chrisheltra]

Originally Posted by soccerspike15

thought you ran the blazer?

Nope its out of my league.

[Lurch]

Tommy Ran a 6.71 and 10.57 at Rockingham ( Track Rental) With no tech or problem's) Darlington Owner stated that if you knew what you are doing on a t&t night or day No problem. I watched the GTO's run 9's with nothing on a track Rental

[itSSlowZ28]

think the last i heard jackson was like 3 or 4k for 6 hours. i think it'd be a worth the trip for ya on a sunday. typically slow and you could get in a ton of runs

[WWhittle]

Originally Posted by itSSlowZ28

think the last i heard jackson was like 3 or 4k for 6 hours. i think it'd be a worth the trip for ya on a sunday. typically slow and you could get in a ton of runs

Where are you guys getting this info? Just curious?

[itSSlowZ28]

a friend of mine is who used to put on Bragging Rights. and we looked into a rental as a track day for our club but dropped it when we heard the price

[WWhittle]

I gotcha. There is a big difference between renting the track for an event, and renting it to test. I think the OP just wants to test.

[LXtasy]

wes, you are different then we are. when the committee called around that is the price we got. but it was an all dayer track rental/event is probably y

[WWhittle]

Originally Posted by LXtasy

wes, you are different then we are. when the committee called around that is the price we got. but it was an all dayer track rental/event is probably y

Nah, it's not because I am different, it's just two different deals we are talking about. If you want to rent the track just to test, it's much much cheaper. They don't need any staff, concessions, etc just for a few cars out there testing. If it's an event, that is a different story.