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2001hawk · 07-13-2012, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AverageJoe

Boeing will also give you the rest of your life off, without pay, at the drop of a hat.

Look Joe I happen to disagree with you slightly. Let me assure you first, I don't stand up for everything Boeing does. Second, there is a big difference in being a Boeing (blue badge) employee and working for one of the contract companies (grey badge). The biggest difference is in job security. Contractors are generally paid a little more, but the benefits just aren't there. Because I work in final assembly, I see the things that get done wrong EVERY day. By everyday I mean several times a day some yahoo will do a job and then when it gets to me things don't fit or look like they should. Keep in mind that most of the jobs are done within spec, but because of the statement of work in my section the incorrect jobs become readily apparent. I have seen the same person mess up three jobs last week alone. I was so pissed off the third time I was really starting to wonder if he can read at all. Still today he has a job. I had a guy working for me in TX last year that left before the end of the shift and entered the full shifts hours into the computer. When my boss went to question him about it he was caught texting on his phone. He admitted all of this and just got chewed out. That was the first time I have ever heard of a company not firing someone for time card falsification. As of a couple of months ago this clown still worked for Boeing the guy probably still does I just haven't been looking for him. I could understand if either person was a really good mechanic allowing them a slip here or there. The only thing to chalk it up to is who the person is actually employed by. There are a few things that Boeing will walk you out for, but they do put up with a lot of shit that other places would fire you for on the spot.
Now for contractors you are in a completely different category. I have seen contractors get fired for things that you wouldn't even get a verbal reprimand for as a blue badge. I know this isn't something comforting to you, but it is what it is. I do think from your side that is probably the situation. On a side note I know of two people that got fired as contractors and still work there today. One of the guys got hired back as a blue badge after getting fired as a contractor TWICE before and the other the works for the same contract company he has been fired from once before.

ForceFed4g63 · 07-13-2012, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 2001hawk

Look Joe I happen to disagree with you slightly. Let me assure you first, I don't stand up for everything Boeing does. Second, there is a big difference in being a Boeing (blue badge) employee and working for one of the contract companies (grey badge). The biggest difference is in job security. Contractors are generally paid a little more, but the benefits just aren't there. Because I work in final assembly, I see the things that get done wrong EVERY day. By everyday I mean several times a day some yahoo will do a job and then when it gets to me things don't fit or look like they should. Keep in mind that most of the jobs are done within spec, but because of the statement of work in my section the incorrect jobs become readily apparent. I have seen the same person mess up three jobs last week alone. I was so pissed off the third time I was really starting to wonder if he can read at all. Still today he has a job. I had a guy working for me in TX last year that left before the end of the shift and entered the full shifts hours into the computer. When my boss went to question him about it he was caught texting on his phone. He admitted all of this and just got chewed out. That was the first time I have ever heard of a company not firing someone for time card falsification. As of a couple of months ago this clown still worked for Boeing the guy probably still does I just haven't been looking for him. I could understand if either person was a really good mechanic allowing them a slip here or there. The only thing to chalk it up to is who the person is actually employed by. There are a few things that Boeing will walk you out for, but they do put up with a lot of shit that other places would fire you for on the spot.
Now for contractors you are in a completely different category. I have seen contractors get fired for things that you wouldn't even get a verbal reprimand for as a blue badge. I know this isn't something comforting to you, but it is what it is. I do think from your side that is probably the situation. On a side note I know of two people that got fired as contractors and still work there today. One of the guys got hired back as a blue badge after getting fired as a contractor TWICE before and the other the works for the same contract company he has been fired from once before.

This is what irritates me, I keep hearing stories like this, and I keep wondering how these people get the jobs, and I can't even get a damn interview there.

LXtasy · 07-13-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ForceFed4g63

This is what irritates me, I keep hearing stories like this, and I keep wondering how these people get the jobs, and I can't even get a damn interview there.

No lie. I have applied for numerous jobs out there. I don't even get much of a phone call or "thank you kiss my ass" email. It is cool though. I heard a lot of those people that work there are premadonna's and complain that work is "hard". lol

AverageJoe · 07-13-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ForceFed4g63

This is what irritates me, I keep hearing stories like this, and I keep wondering how these people get the jobs, and I can't even get a damn interview there.

How about actually getting hired (through readysc program and temp agency for probation period), waiting almost a year to start, being the best in your training class and then getting fired for asking a question about attendance policy? They don't care about getting quality personnel there, they just want sheep willing to work for low pay.

I have aircraft and manufacturing experience, btw.

Mike · 07-13-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AverageJoe

then getting fired for asking a question about attendance policy?

WTF?

What was your question?

Got to love living in a "right to get fired" state.

ShawnBoyMoody · 07-14-2012, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

WTF?

What was your question?

Got to love living in a "right to get fired" state.

Knowing Joe it probably went a lil something like this here. Joe- "Hey bigman I got a question for you." Boss- Yes Joe? Joe- "What the fuck is up with this bullshit attendance policy? Bunch of fuckin bullshit is what it is." Boss- "Thats it your fired!" Joe- "Huh? What for?"